John,

If you want to call years and years of being unable to update the ASN, _that I was being billed for_ "support", we have a difference of opinion. Had I been an ARIN member, I am sure I would have gotten better treatment, but possibly not as RS and many other highly respected individuals tried to help over the years but were unsuccessful.

The relevance is: as stated in the review report, you have over 11,000 ASN only organizations who are not members of ARIN. ARIN continues to raise fees yet does not provide more value. I am a vocal minority.

John Curran <mailto:[email protected]>
September 19, 2014 at 11:25 AM

Steve -

As you are well aware, that had nothing to do with membership, but the fact
that you were not associated with the organization record associated with
the ASN.

Parties can make changes to resource records without entry being a member,
but we obviously prevent parties with no clear association with a resource
from making changes. This is completely unrelated to membership. With
regard to being "denied support", you very much received support; it was
via such support from ARIN that the problem was resolved in June 2016.)

Again, this is completely unrelated to membership; ARIN refused to allow
someone not associated with a resource to update because to do so would
have been incorrect. Once we got your organization record straightened
out, your changes were all accepted (and again, completely independent
of membership.)

FYI,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

Steve Noble <mailto:[email protected]>
September 19, 2014 at 11:09 AM
As an ASN only holder, not a member, I was denied the ability to update my ASN for years (from 2002-2011?) and ARIN refused to do anything about it. I was required to pay the fees, else lose the ASN, but not allowed to update the physical address (which is what I assume registration services are for). The fees were raised for a single ASN from $30 -> $100 while ARIN provided no new services, including membership in ARIN.

Seth Mattinen <mailto:[email protected]>
September 19, 2014 at 11:03 AM



Can you provide some examples of what you're being denied by only having an ASN?

~Seth
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John Curran <mailto:[email protected]>
September 19, 2014 at 7:28 AM
ARIN Members and Community -

After the last change to the ARIN fee schedule, the ARIN Board of Trustees directed the creation of a "Fee Structure Review Panel" to consider possible
long-term directions for ARIN fee schedule and and prepare a document for
the community outlining the potential merits of each alternative. The panel has
now completed the production of the "ARIN Fee Structure Review Report"
and it is attached for consideration by the ARIN community.

There will be community consultation to consider potential next steps for the ARIN Fee Schedule; that consultation will be opened after the Fee Structure Discussion which will take place during the ARIN 34 meeting on Friday morning
10 October 2014.

I would like to thank all of the panel members for their excellent efforts in
producing this final report -

ARIN Board Finance Committee Members:
Paul Anderson (Chair)
Aaron Hughes
Bill Woodcock
John Curran

At-Large Members:
Tim St. Pierre
Steve Feldman
Brandon Ross
Daniel Alexander
Michael Sinatra

Thank you all! (and look forward to see you in Baltimore!)
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN

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