On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:17 PM, John Santos <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, 10 Nov 2014, Martin Hannigan wrote: > >> > >> > "7. Upon verification that the organization has shown evidence of >> > deployment >> > of the new discrete network site, [such as, but not limited to the >> > following: a network design showing existing and new discreet networks and >> > supporting documentation that the proposed design in in progress such as >> > contracts for new space or power, new equipment orders, publicly available >> > marketing material describing the offering in a new location, or some other >> > significant capital investment in the project,] the new networks shall be >> > allocated: >> > >> >> Let's go back to the original point I made in the last two PPC and >> ARIN meetings. How can a company contract for real estate, energy or >> network without knowing if they had IP addresses to operate their >> business (in this current environment of v4 scarcity and policy >> wonkery?)? > > Any company with a business plan is taking risks and has to have a > fall back plan (even if the plan is "pack it in") for any conceivable > eventuality. You want ARIN to guarantee that they can get IPv4 before > they've found a site, bought any equipment, signed any contracts with > suppliers or customers, or even made any public announcements of their > plans to establish a new site?
Let me get this straight. So one should have a business plans that accounts for spending money that may not actually get to generate any revenue? ARIN has been assigning addresses without this requirement for a decade plus. The ability to forward look (guarantee) has been shrunk and now ARIN is targeting MDN for discriminatory policies and removing any ability to forward look, a normal practice in "business". The risk of not getting addresses because ARIN is using clueless requirements is very high, not average. This isn't a simple excercise of "win some lose some". There are real dollars at stake (whether you operate a single rack or 1000 racks regardless of how much "power" you use) and real risks. This proposal is best summed up as 'wasteful tinkering'. Best, -M< _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
