> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of William Herrin
> 
> I'm don't think there is such a change but there are a few things that jump
> out at me as being particularly offensive.
> 
> 1. This issue is not a concern for ARIN number resources overall. Now and for
> the foreseeable future it frankly only matters for IPv4 addresses. Crafting a

Actually the policy was written primarily with v6 in mind, because the v4 free 
pool will soon be exhausted, but the principle should apply to all number 
spaces. And I believe that the only reason you oppose this is the false and 
contrary-to-principle idea that North Americans "own" their remaining v4 
numbers simply by virtue of the fact they happened to run out slower than other 
regions. 

> No one here
> cares whether AS numbers or IPv6 addresses are used out-region and

I am glad you have conceded this because it dispenses with the "this is all 
contrary to ICP2" nonsense. If AS numbers and IPv6 numbers can be obtained from 
one RIR for global use then there is no reason why v4 numbers can't be - the 
principle is the same. 

> 2. I disagree with spinning it as an existing policy flaw. There's a ARIN -
> implementation- flaw here. Classically and consistent with the spirit of ICP2,
> the RIRs allow minor outregion use of addresses that's incidental to an in-
> region operation. And you know what? You haven't been the slightest bit shy

I think John has refuted this.

> 3. Registry shopping is a bad bad bad idea. It defeats and is directly 
> contrary
> to the whole ICP2 spirit of LOCAL self-governance. As written, this policy

I don't agree. I think uneven runout and the resulting arbitrage has shown us 
why territorial registries are a bad bad bad idea. There is some justification 
for having more localized participatory structures to deal with language 
differences and to improve access, but many companies that are trans-regional 
have every right to decide which of these regions is most convenient to them 
and rely exclusively on that. Asking every company with a presence in more than 
one region to duplicate (or triplicate or quadruplicate, etc.) their investment 
in monitoring and obtaining numbers is just bad bad bad bad policy. I have no 
idea what you think it accomplishes, other than hoarding for a particular 
region. Your idea that this is about "local self-governance" is a distortion 
and corruption of the original idea of address registries. They are not 
territorially exclusive governments with "sovereignty" and the users within 
them are not territorially exclusive either. This is a globalized wo
 rld and the internet was designed to be global. Stop fighting over the 
remaining crumbs of IPv4 and face that fact.

--MM

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