On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Milton L Mueller wrote:

Jon
Yes, it's clear that you support the intent of 2014-1, which is to reconcile actual staff practice with an approved policy. But it also sounds like you think our threshold requirement can be gamed? The "speaking Romanian" issue (or more likely, speaking Chinese) has been the subject of fierce debates. Do you have specific suggestions for how we could fix this?

I haven't thought of anything yet that I don't think would be trivial to game. Operating in region could be accomplished with as little as one cloud VM. "Doing business in" could be done with a Delaware shell company that "exists in region", but only on paper.

This may be too arbitrary, but what if to qualify to be permitted to use/request resources from ARIN for out of region use, in addition to what's already in 2014-1, you had to be an ARIN member for some minimum amount of time (i.e. already have resources managed by ARIN)? 1 year? The idea would be to make it harder for a completely "out of region" entity to come to ARIN under this new policy and game the system and use ARIN as an alternative to their "local" RIR.

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