I take it from your tone that you don’t think that keeping the ARIN Registry 
Database is as important than Needs Testing.  If that is the case then why keep 
up the charade that the Registry is important at all?  Just change ARINs 
Mission to say that needs testing is more important than keeping the  Registry 
accurate.  This is what the current policies actually do in real life practice 
today anyway, as every single Legacy block that sells outside of ARIN that ARIN 
refuses to register makes the Registry more and more inaccurate.

I’ve seen quite a lot of folks in this community state in this forum that 
keeping the Registry Database current is important to them and I share that 
position.

Refusing to allow folks like Mike Burns to update the Registry info on the sale 
of a legacy block, when he will provide reasonable Contractual evidence to ARIN 
and the seller who is listed in the Registry will vouch that the sales has 
occurred, hurts everyone who needs the Registry to be accurate.

I know some folks in this community don’t like Legacy blocks being sold outside 
of ARIN but since it happens anyway, at least the Registry could be more 
accurate when it does – but then there I go again trying to apply some common 
sense.

Steven L Ryerse
President
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From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 3:09 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: John Curran; [email protected] List
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2

Are you saying that your primary school education failed to cover rhetorical 
and logical fallacies?

If you want to have a conversation, you're welcome to, but you need to make 
sense.

                -Bill


On Jun 4, 2015, at 21:04, Steven Ryerse 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So are you saying  (since you were there) that one of the key reasons ARIN was 
formed was NOT to keep the Registry Database accurate?

Steven L Ryerse
President
100 Ashford Center North, Suite 110, Atlanta, GA  30338
770.656.1460 - Cell
770.399.9099 - Office
770.392-0076 - Fax

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From: Bill Woodcock [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 2:59 PM
To: Steven Ryerse
Cc: John Curran; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> List
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] 2015-2


On Jun 4, 2015, at 17:47, Steven Ryerse 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would point out that ARIN is doing the opposite of fulfilling one of the main 
reasons ARIN was formed - and that is to keep the database accurate.

Funny, I was there, and I don't remember that being on the agenda. What I 
remember is balancing the need for aggregatability with the availability of 
independent blocks, and conservation of a scarce resourc e.  The notion that 
people who couldn't abide with the public interest should be catered to at 
everyone else's expense was not, to the best of my recollection "one of the 
main reasons ARIN was formed."
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