Hi Owen,
I don't mind staff assistance and differentiate staff from AC members, also.
In this case it was a little more than "assistance" out the outset, ("Tell me
the words you'd accept")..
As it developed it was clear that Mr. Herrin would provide more than that,
which I found acceptable.
Regards,
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Owen DeLong
To: Mike Burns
Cc: Jason Schiller ; [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2
I don’t see any problem with ARIN staff assisting an author in crafting
language that will yield the desired staff interpretation.
What do you see as the problem, exactly? (I’ll note that I think your
description of what John offered differs from what was actually offered which I
believe is more accurately described above).
Owen
On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:36 , Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Jason,
I do object to John Curran writing a policy proposal to be submitted to the
community under another person’s name.
It just seems wrong to me but I could be alone in that thought.
Regards,
Mike
From: Jason Schiller [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 3:30 PM
To: Mike Burns
Cc: William Herrin; John Curran; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] ARIN-PPML 2015-2
Mike,
If you object, I'm sure an AC member can be found to craft some text, and
get staff and legal assessment.
FWIW, if you like this restriction, I think the rjletts approach catches it
all:
If target registry does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
reject transfer to target registry
If target registry allows transfers out of their RIR to any other registry
that does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
reject transfer to target registry
else
accept the transfer
WRT this restriction and compatible needs-based policies, you may want to
do the same...
If target registry does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
reject transfer to target registry
If target registry allows transfers out of their RIR to any other registry
that either
1. does not have a compatible needs based policy
OR 2. does not allow transfers out of their RIR then
reject transfer to target registry
else
accept the transfer
FWIW, its not just NIRs, I believe you could transfer IPs from ARIN to
APNIC, and then from APNIC to RIPE.
__Jason
On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote:
Tell me the words you'd accept as requiring transfer reciprocity and
compatibility go beyond lip service and I'll advance those words. Else
suffer the continued wagging of my finger.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
Well, now, I think that's a bit too much participation to ask of ARIN's
president. I support continued finger-wagging.
Regards,
Mike
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