Since this would impact IPv6, ASNs, and IPv4 transfers, I don’t think it’s particularly late.
I agree it’s late for the IPv4 free pool, as that is essentially dead (and hopefully really dead soon), but I think there remains relevance to addressing the policy issues. Admittedly this is less of an issue for ASNs due to the nature of their usage, but I think it’s still just as relevant for some cases of IPv6. Owen > On Jul 1, 2015, at 16:36 , Jon Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm in favor of 2015-5, but think it's a little late to be even talking about > this. My problem with current policy is ARIN has adopted a highly > conservative interpretation of vague policy (basically inventing policy > disallowing out of region use when such a thing is not explicitly in any > established policy). > > There are ARIN members running global networks who have been using ARIN > resources out of region for many years, only to eventually find out "those > IPs don't count as 'utilized' depending on exactly how you've allocated and > routed them." > > Given how close ARIN is to run-out, I'm not sure how meaningful passage of > 2015-5 would be...but I'd still like to see more of a connection between > ARIN's number policies and the actual NRPM (not some narrow interpretation of > its vagueness). > > On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Martin Hannigan wrote: > >> Opposed. >> >> We all have already been here and done that. >> >> The community told the AC and ARIN to abandon. Not to do over. We already >> have all of our objections on record including THST we already use resources >> globally (cdn, content). >> >> Where are we disconnected? Can you elaborate? Will help us to comprehend. >> >> Best, >> >> Marty >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Jul 1, 2015, at 15:32, Heather Schiller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bill, >>> >>> Thank you for your feedback. It would be useful to the AC and the authors >>> if you could site the specific language that causes your concern, so that >>> we can work to improve it. We would also welcome suggestions for >>> modifications. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- Heather >>>> On Jun 23, 2015 7:00 PM, "William Herrin" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 4:06 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5 >>>>> Out of region use >>>> >>>> OPPOSED. >>>> >>>> This draft calls for ARIN staff to make highly subjective value >>>> judgments which will, by their nature, vary from individual to >>>> individual and probably even from an individual's mood to mood. This >>>> would make a fair and impartial implementation of such a policy >>>> impossible. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Bill Herrin >>>> >>>> -- >>>> William Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] >>>> Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PPML >>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>>> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PPML >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jon Lewis, MCP :) | I route > | therefore you are > _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp <http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp> > for PGP public key_________ > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > <http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> > Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues.
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