As an ISP, you are billed on your total address holdings, not individual blocks.

So, a /22 and 4 /24s would be billed identically.

ISPs do not pay separate annual fees for ASNs. There is a one time fee for each 
ASN
the same as end-users (currently $500).

In your example, 4 /24s, a /40, and an ASN, you would pay the greater of $500 
(IPv4 /22)
or $500 (IPv6 /40) if you could somehow get a /40.

However, under current policy, the smallest block available to an ISP directly 
from ARIN
is a /36. A /36 is $1,000 annually, so if you got a /36, your fees would go up 
to $1,000.
The smallest recommended (and default minimum) is /32, which is currently 
$2,000.

Owen

> On Aug 11, 2015, at 21:42 , Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> We are an ISP.
> Will 4 different non-contiguous blocks be counted as 1 or 4 blocks for fees.
> Or is the block count the total of all combined /24's that we would get 
> allocated?
> So a /22 (or 4 /24's)  plus a /40 plus ASN for an ISP would be $500 annually?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/11/2015 11:22 PM, Jason Schiller wrote:
>> For ISPs a /22 is billed at XX-small at $500 annually.
>> (this includes ASNs and membership vote)
>> 
>> adding up to a /40 keeps the ISP in the XX-small category and does not 
>> change the annual fee.
>> 
>> An IPv4 /32 bumps the ISP up to a small with an annual fee of $2,000.  (a 
>> $1,500 increase).
>> (If the ISP already had more than a /20 there would be no increase in fees)
>> 
>> 
>> End sites are billed differently 
>> End sites pay $100 per resource.  
>> one /22 costs $100.
>> two /24s cost $200.
>> one /20, two /23s, and two ASNs cost $500 annually.
>> 
>> There is an additional one time fee for new resources based on the size of 
>> the resource.
>> 
>> So an end user with one /22 and one ASN the annual fee is $200.
>> 
>> There is a one time initial fee of of $500 for a single block that is a /40 
>> or smaller
>> (this is in addition to the $200 annual fee for IPv4 and ASN) 
>> 
>> The following year the annual fee will go up by $100 for a total of $300.
>> 
>> ___Jason
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:35 PM, David Huberman 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi Josh, <>
>>  
>> If you have a /21 allocation from ARIN, then you are paying them $1,000 a 
>> year in a subscription fee.  That covers your AS number, and your /21, and 
>> it gives you membership to vote.
>> 
>>  
>> If you want, you can request a /36 of IPv6 from ARIN, and it will come at no 
>> extra charge.  There will be no registration fee, and your annual 
>> subscription fee will not change.
>> 
>>  
>> From an engineering perspective, many of us do not recommend that.  We 
>> recommend getting the full default prefix size – a /32 – and deploying that. 
>>   Unfortunately, that will cause your annual subscription fee with ARIN to 
>> double to $2,000.  You still won’t pay a registration fee for getting the 
>> /32, but when your next annual bill is sent, it will be for $2,000 rather 
>> than $1,000.
>> 
>>  
>> Please keep in mind that the only realistic way I know of to get more IPv4 
>> addresses for your new products and customers is via the IPv4 transfer 
>> market, and that’s going to cost many, many times more than ARIN charges.  
>> Many tens of thousands of dollars, probably, depending on what you want to 
>> get.   You may wish to balance the cost of obtaining more IPv4 addresses in 
>> the market with what revenue opportunities those addresses represent, then 
>> factor in how you can (or cannot) leverage IPv6 to make those numbers work 
>> better for you.  Just a suggestion, and sorry if I’m overstepping.
>> 
>>  
>> David
>> 
>>  
>> David R Huberman
>> Principal, Global IP Addressing
>> 
>> Microsoft Corporation
>> 
>>  
>> From:  <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:29 PM
>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Automatic IPv6 Eligibility
>> 
>>  
>> Well here's my scenario. My ISP is in the process of acquiring another ISP, 
>> I wrote into arin for advice of how to go about requesting additional ip 
>> space as the acquisition will take more IP addresses then what we have left 
>> out of our current /21 allotment.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I was advised to apply asap however with the depletion procedures/protocols 
>> it didn't seem likely to quickly be able to get enough blocks from the free 
>> pool.
>> 
>> If an existing service provider such as myself would be able to get a free 
>> ipv6 allocation I would agree it would help transition to ipv6 faster as I 
>> need more IPs for my customers, infrastructure, etc. 
>> 
>> I'd at least be more willing to try to make it work for my customer ip space 
>> since there would be little or no cost involved, now the problem that 
>> remains is the equipment compatibility and third party support of ipv6.
>> 
>> Is it possible to still get a block to use for my ISP for $100/yr? 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> Josh Rowe 
>> 
>> On August 11, 2015 10:11:40 PM EDT, Randy Carpenter < 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> ----- On Aug 11, 2015, at 8:43 PM, Seth Mattinen [email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>  On 8/11/15 14:43, Alfie Cleveland wrote:
>>  Hello,
>> 
>>  I’m requesting comment in regards to automatically make organisations
>>  eligible for IPv6 if they hold justified IPv4 space. This similar to
>>  Section 9.3.1. of the [APNIC-127] APNIC Internet Number Resource
>>  Policies. I feel that if organisations were able to receive a /48 for
>>  each /24 they hold, then it would help expedite the rollout of IPv6.
>>  Organisations currently have two choices - continue to use IPv4, or
>>  spend valuable time on applying for IPv6 space. IPv6 space is clearly in
>>  abundance - and this could potentially help slo
>>  w the
>> exhaustion of IPv4.
>>  
>>  
>>  I got my /32 IPv6 allocation in late 2009 and end user /48 in 2007 and I
>>  don't remember having to do much to qualify for them other than ask. Has
>>  this changed?
>> No. If you have IPv4 space already, it is incredibly easy to get IPv6. 
>> Getting the default /48 as an end-user is about as automatic as it could be, 
>> and qualifying for more is not much more effort if you have multiple sites.
>> 
>> The only issue is that for end-users, you now have to pay an additional $100 
>> per year for the IPv6 assignment.
>> 
>> -Randy
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