I don’t understand why everyone wants to keep blocking all outside of ARIN
transactions. A year from now there might be a thousand or more legitimate
organizations that meet one or more of the current policies to qualify for an
IPv4 allocation. Let’s say that is your Org or your Customer’s Org - and ARIN
dutifully places you on their waiting list. Time passes and no significant
supply comes available for your request.
So then what do you do? ARIN can’t fulfill your request timely. You have a
legitimate need. If IPv6 won’t work, Is living without the resources you need
really acceptable? If not do you break down and call a Broker to help find you
the resources that you need?
Why does this community continually paint organizations into the corner of not
being able to get IPv4 resources without going outside of ARINs policies? John
asked this community to visit the issue of runout several months ago, and there
was some discussion but I’ve seen no real will to make any significant
adjustments to try and deal with the new world we all must live in now.
We can keep rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, or we can face reality that
times have completely changed and the old rules won’t work in a new ARIN world.
My 2 cents.
Steven Ryerse
President
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Martin Hannigan
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 4:08 PM
To: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Thoughts on 2015-7
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Scott Leibrand
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Reducing the burden on ARIN staff is not part of the problem statement for this
proposal (though it might be a side effect, depending on how they implement
it). The main goal here is to reduce the administrative burden on
organizations who need to acquire IPv4 space via transfer. That burden may
actually be higher for smaller entities who don't have experience with and
processes in place for jumping through ARIN's hoops.
I don't think this policy would have much impact on the ability of large
well-funded entities to purchase as much address space as they like.
Currently, those organizations simply write a contract that gives them full
rights to the address space they're buying, and allows them to transfer the
space with ARIN whenever they are ready to put it into use on their network (or
can otherwise pass ARIN's needs justification tests).
Let me give you a real world example.
1. Buy rights to use addresses in any quantity you believe you need
2. Use those addresses as you need them, assuming the agreement you made with
the party works properly
3. Get an LOA from the documented owner
4. Bypass ARIN entirely
5. Use the addresses.
How do you think we should solve that problem?
Best,
-M<
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