To all on list. :) RD On Dec 22, 2015 3:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Advisory Council Meeting Results - December 2015 > (David Huberman) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 00:53:02 -0500 > From: Thomas Narten <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [arin-ppml] Weekly posting summary for [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Total of 4 messages in the last 7 days. > > script run at: Fri Dec 18 00:53:02 EST 2015 > > Messages | Bytes | Who > --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ > 25.00% | 1 | 40.51% | 29463 | [email protected] > 25.00% | 1 | 30.04% | 21850 | [email protected] > 25.00% | 1 | 19.79% | 14392 | [email protected] > 25.00% | 1 | 9.67% | 7033 | [email protected] > --------+------+--------+----------+------------------------ > 100.00% | 4 |100.00% | 72738 | Total > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:25:42 -0500 > From: ARIN <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - December 2015 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP), the ARIN > Advisory Council (AC) met on 17 December 2015. > > Having found the following Draft Policy to be fully developed and > meeting ARIN's Principles of Internet Number Resource Policy, the AC > recommended it for adoption (to be posted separately for discussion as a > Recommended Draft Policy): > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11: Remove transfer language which only > applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool > > The AC abandoned the following: > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users > > The AC provided the following statement, "The ARIN AC has voted to > abandon draft proposal ARIN-2015-8. Although a number of participants at > ARIN 36 and on the PPML indicated support for investigation of greater > harmonization of the services provided by ARIN to ISPs and End-Users, > this specific proposal had no substantial community > support. In fact, those who addressed themselves to the specific > proposal, rather than broader issue of fees charged to ISPs vs. > End-users or the types of services that ARIN should provide to each > class of clients, did not support the specific proposal itself. Based on > community feedback, we would suggest the broader issues be considered by > ARIN, as part of a review of services." > > The AC is continuing to work on: > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to > Specified Recipients) > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization requirement in > end-user IPv4 policy > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6: Transfers and Multi-national Networks > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7: Simplified requirements for demonstrated > need for IPv4 transfers > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for > Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks > > The AC abandoned 2015-8. Anyone dissatisfied with this decision may > initiate a petition. The deadline to begin a petition will be five > business days after the AC's draft meeting minutes are published. For > more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP > Petitions at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html > > Draft Policy and Proposal texts are available at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html > > The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html > > Regards, > > Communications and Member Services > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:26:08 -0500 > From: ARIN <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11: Remove > transfer language which only applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11 > Remove transfer language which only applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool > > On 17 December 2015 the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) recommended > ARIN-2015-11 for adoption, making it a Recommended Draft Policy. > > ARIN-2015-11 is below and can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2015_11.html > > You are encouraged to discuss Draft Policy 2015-11 on the PPML prior to > its presentation at the next ARIN Public Policy Consultation. Both the > discussion on the list and at the meeting will be used by the ARIN > Advisory Council to determine the community consensus for adopting this > as policy. > > The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html > > Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html > > Regards, > > Communications and Member Services > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > > > ## * ## > > > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11 > Remove transfer language which only applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool > > AC's assessment of conformance with the Principles of Internet Number > Resource Policy: > > ARIN 2015-11 contributes to fair and impartial number resource > administration by removing from the NRPM text that has become > inoperative since the depletion of the IPv4 free pool in September 2015, > thereby avoiding confusion among people applying for 8.3 or 8.4 > transfers. This proposal is technically sound, in that the removal of > the text in question does not create any contradictions or loopholes in > the application of policies that still matter. The proposal was > supported by some community members on PPML and at the ARIN meeting in > Montreal, and did not generate any opposition. > > Date: 23 September 2015 > > Problem Statement: > > The current policies in NRPM sections 8.3, and 8.4 include language > which is in effect "until exhaustion." As ARIN is no longer able to > fulfil IPv4 requests (per 01 July 2015 press release > https://www.arin.net/about_us/media/releases/20150701.html), exhaustion > has effectively occurred. This proposal serves to remove the outdated > language from the NRPM. > > Policy statement: > > Remove sections of the NRPM which were only affective until IPv4 pool > exhaustion occurred, as follows: > > Section 8.3 Transfers between Specified Recipients within the ARIN Region: > - Remove entirely the second bullet which reads "The source entity will > be ineligible to receive any further IPv4 address allocations or > assignments from ARIN for a period of 12 months after a transfer > approval, or until the exhaustion of ARIN's IPv4 space, whichever occurs > first." > > Section 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients: > - Remove entirely the third bullet which reads "Source entities within > the ARIN region will not be eligible to receive any further IPv4 address > allocations or assignments from ARIN for a period of 12 months after a > transfer approval, or until the exhaustion of ARIN's IPv4 space, > whichever occurs first." > > Comments: > Timetable for implementation: Immediate > > ##### > > ARIN STAFF & LEGAL ASSESSMENT > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11 > REMOVE TRANSFER LANGUAGE WHICH ONLY APPLIED PRE-EXHAUSTION OF IPV4 POOL > > > Date of Assessment: 22 October 2015 > > ___ > 1. Summary (Staff Understanding) > > This proposal calls for the removal of language in 8.3 and 8.4 of NRPM > that sets a condition on the amount of time that must pass before the > source of an 8.3 or 8.4 transfer may request additional IPv4 address > space as a recipient. > > ___ > 2. Comments > > A. ARIN Staff Comments > > * Since ARIN staff considers the depletion of the IPv4 address space as > a single, one-time, event that has already occurred on September 24, > 2015, the subject language no longer applies to new IPv4 recipient > requests going forward. As of September 24, 2015, ARIN staff no longer > applies a 12-month lock-out to organizations requesting to receive IPv4 > who have previously been the source of an IPv4 allocation/assignment > through an 8.3 or 8.4 transfer. > > * ARIN staff considers the removal of policy language to have no effect > on processing of requests; it appears to be purely removal of > inoperative policy text. > > * ARIN staff notes that both 8.3 and 8.4 have language that prevents > organizations from being a source in an approved 8.3 or 8.4 transfer if > they have been a recipient of IPv4 address space in the 12 months prior, > and this language is presently operative and would remain so even if the > proposal change is made. > > * This policy could be implemented as written. > > B. ARIN General Counsel ? Legal Assessment > > No material legal issues. > > ___ > 3. Resource Impact > This policy would have minimal resource impact from an implementation > aspect. It is estimated that implementation would occur within 3 months > after ratification by the ARIN Board of Trustees. The following would be > needed in order to implement: > > * Updated guidelines and internal procedures > * Staff training > > ___ > 4. Proposal / Draft Policy Text Assessed > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11 > > Problem statement: > > The current policies in NRPM sections 8.3, and 8.4 include language > which is in effect "until exhaustion." As ARIN is no longer able to > fulfil IPv4 requests (per 01 July 2015 press release > https://www.arin.net/about_us/media/releases/20150701.html), exhaustion > has effectively occurred. This proposal serves to remove the outdated > language from the NRPM. > > Policy statement: > > Remove sections of the NRPM which were only affective until IPv4 pool > exhaustion occurred, as follows: > > Section 8.3 Transfers between Specified Recipients within the ARIN Region: > - Remove entirely the second bullet which reads "The source entity will > be ineligible to receive any further IPv4 address allocations or > assignments from ARIN for a period of 12 months after a transfer > approval, or until the exhaustion of ARIN's IPv4 space, whichever occurs > first." > > Section 8.4 Inter-RIR Transfers to Specified Recipients: > - Remove entirely the third bullet which reads "Source entities within > the ARIN region will not be eligible to receive any further IPv4 address > allocations or assignments from ARIN for a period of 12 months after a > transfer approval, or until the exhaustion of ARIN's IPv4 space, > whichever occurs first." > > END > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 19:45:23 +0000 > From: David Huberman <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Advisory Council Meeting Results - December > 2015 > Message-ID: > < > 1201b0375d8898ec.7462094a-98bd-4f8e-b9e5-0f8b5445f...@mail.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Following the excellent example that Scott Leibrand has done over the > years, I wish to convey my objections over the abandonment of 2015-8, which > would allow End-users to SWIP. > > Year after year, and issue after issue, John Curran tells us "this is the > way we are doing it; if you want us to change, go propose a policy". > > That's exactly what happened with 2015-8. > > The issue is complex because of the billing issues (most of the > justification for the original ISP fee schedule was because of SWIP) and > the existence of the dichotomy between ISPs and EUs. > > But the proposal is sound, in my opinion. It introduces a policy > requirement to force ARIN to change how it runs its software. There's no > wiggle room when a policy like this is passed. The community speaks, the > staff carries it out. > > I acknowledge that there was not tremendous support at the first public > meeting for 2015-8, but I think that is insufficient cause to abandon it. > We should discuss it further. > > It should not be abdicated to the services WG which is not an elected body. > > David > > Sent from Outlook Mobile<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:26 AM -0800, "ARIN" <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > > In accordance with the ARIN Policy Development Process (PDP), the ARIN > Advisory Council (AC) met on 17 December 2015. > > Having found the following Draft Policy to be fully developed and > meeting ARIN's Principles of Internet Number Resource Policy, the AC > recommended it for adoption (to be posted separately for discussion as a > Recommended Draft Policy): > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-11: Remove transfer language which only > applied pre-exhaustion of IPv4 pool > > The AC abandoned the following: > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-8: Reassignment records for IPv4 End-Users > > The AC provided the following statement, "The ARIN AC has voted to > abandon draft proposal ARIN-2015-8. Although a number of participants at > ARIN 36 and on the PPML indicated support for investigation of greater > harmonization of the services provided by ARIN to ISPs and End-Users, > this specific proposal had no substantial community > support. In fact, those who addressed themselves to the specific > proposal, rather than broader issue of fees charged to ISPs vs. > End-users or the types of services that ARIN should provide to each > class of clients, did not support the specific proposal itself. Based on > community feedback, we would suggest the broader issues be considered by > ARIN, as part of a review of services." > > The AC is continuing to work on: > > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-2: Modify 8.4 (Inter-RIR Transfers to > Specified Recipients) > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-3: Remove 30 day utilization requirement in > end-user IPv4 policy > Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2015-5: Out of region use > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-6: Transfers and Multi-national Networks > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-7: Simplified requirements for demonstrated > need for IPv4 transfers > Draft Policy ARIN-2015-9: Eliminating needs-based evaluation for > Section 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 transfers of IPv4 netblocks > > The AC abandoned 2015-8. Anyone dissatisfied with this decision may > initiate a petition. The deadline to begin a petition will be five > business days after the AC's draft meeting minutes are published. For > more information on starting and participating in petitions, see PDP > Petitions at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_petitions.html > > Draft Policy and Proposal texts are available at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html > > The ARIN Policy Development Process can be found at: > https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html > > Regards, > > Communications and Member Services > American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > _______________________________________________ > PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20151222/0ad5322d/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > End of ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 126, Issue 10 > ****************************************** >
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