Hello all,

I am avidly following this discussion and based on my daily observances (daily 
swips /subnets ), I would say Andy is closest to being practical.

Leave the IPv4 /29 requirements alone, THIS LIMIT IS ALREADY BEING PUSHED AT 
DAILY BY NON-RESIDENTIAL USERS and only the vague ARIN policy prevents total 
chaos.

With regards to IPv6, I would recommend ANY USER/ENTITY/ORG that requests a /56 
OR LARGER NETWORK assignment be swiped.

That would still leave /60 to /64 assignments as minimum assignment or for 
dynamic usage for either residential or other usage.




Orin Roberts - IP PROVISIONING
Bell Canada




From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Hadenfeldt, 
Andrew C
Sent: May-29-17 11:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment 
Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

Oppose as written, +1 on the points below (leave /29 alone, and would prefer to 
see /56 rather than /60)

-Andy

From: ARIN-PPML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of William Herrin
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:02 PM
To: ARIN <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment 
Registration requirements between IPv4 and IPv6

On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 2:35 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:
Draft Policy ARIN-2017-5: Equalization of Assignment Registration requirements 
between IPv4 and IPv6

Policy statement:

Amend 4.2.3.7.1 of the policy manual to strike "/29 or more" and change to 
"more than a /28".

Hello,
In my opinion...

Leave /29 alone or change it to "more than a single IP address." In these days 
of IPv4 shortage, substantial networks sit behind small blocks of public 
addresses. These networks should be documented with reachable POCs lest the 
anti-spam/virus/malware folks slam down /24 filters for lack of information 
about how misbehaving networks are partitioned.
 
Amend 6.5.5.1 of the policy manual to strike "/64 or more" and change to "more 
than a /60".

Change this to "more than a /56." Service providers should NOT be assigning 
/64's to end users. If you're doing that, you're doing it wrong. An IPv6 
customer should be able to have more than one /64 subnet without resorting to 
NAT so /60 should be the absolute minimum end-user assignment, equivalent for 
all intents and purposes to an IPv4 /32. If we then want "equivalence" to the 
/29 policy so that individuals with the minimum and near-minimum assignment do 
not need to be SWIPed, it makes sense to move the next subnetting level up. In 
IPv6, assignment is strongly recommended on nibble boundaries, so that means 
/56.

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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