On 17-07-17 10:54 AM, David R Huberman wrote:
AT&T Internet Services SBCIS-SIS80-1005 (NET-69-0-0-0-1) 69.0.0.0 - 69.0.127.255 THE MEDICINE SHOPPE SBC069000000000030204 (NET-69-0-0-0-2) 69.0.0.0 - 69.0.0.7

When you lookup the specific /29, you get:

CustName:       THE MEDICINE SHOPPE
Address:        310 ORANGE ST
City:           NEW HAVEN
StateProv:      CT
PostalCode:     06510
Country:        US

It depends, who do you want to be authorative for contact information on issues related to that network.

If ATT wants to deal with every issue related to every IP address in that /17, no need to do SWIP, however if you want the Medicine Shoppe to be be able to authoratively speak for the usage of that /29, you better give them SWIP/rwhois.

It also is a 'boundary' condition, eg can speak to the operations of the /29, but should not have to worry about activity from surrounding blocks..

Now, in terms of an ISP providing IP allocations to customers, it may not have to be SWIP'ed on the IP boundary, as for instance a /21 may ALL be dynamic IP Addresses for customers, which can be SWIP'ed as such, and the holder of the SWIP (poc) will be responsible for the combined behavior of the pool.

However, if a statically assigned IP to a business customer, it might want to be SWIP'ed so that the specific customer can set a 'boundary' on behavior, eg my IP is not like the rest around me, and I will be responsible for my IP's activity.

Aside from the concept's of SWIP helping 'justify' usage for resources, (and there is a slippery slope, if you don't care about justification for IPv6 but you do for IPv4 in terms of legal contests), the idea of setting a control boundary via SWIP and/or rwhois is a very important concept.

As such, I would suggest making this concept a basis for when SWIP 'might' be used, but not enforced.. eg. SWIP should not be needed at any lower level than the boundary of responsibility.

An ISP could set that boundary for one household, or one business, IF that is the boundary of responsibility, and the household or business 'chooses' to be the responsible party for that boundary, and in that case they should expect that their POC information be publicized.

It would be better if the concept of 'boundaries' be enshrined, instead of the actual number of IP (v6 or otherwise) or segments.. In some cases in the future it 'could' be a boundary be specified as low as a /56, but in reality, the segment would be different depending on the use case.

If you want to enshrine 'use cases' into the proposal, then you might come to agreement for a specific use case, when/how to SWIP it.

Also, remember, 'rwhois' is available at a lower granularity than SWIP might require as well..




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