Huh? WHOIS is not a geolocation service and anyone who thinks it is should reduce their use of recreational pharmaceuticals.
Owen > On Jul 24, 2017, at 12:03 , Paul McNary <pmcn...@cameron.net> wrote: > > Then that totally negates the reasoning for geolocation. > The administrative address could be on the other side of the earth. > > Paul > > > On 7/24/2017 1:31 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 14:28 , hostmas...@uneedus.com wrote: >>> >>> My transit bus example is another example of SWIP difficulty. Very hard to >>> provide a street address to SWIP a bus when it is mobile 16 hours a day. >> Not at all. A bus would be SWIPd to the bus yard or administrative offices >> of the bus company. The SWIP data is not required to be the service address, >> it is required to be an address for administrative and/or technical contact >> regarding the network and/or legal process service regarding same. >> >> [rest trimmed because we are in agreement on that part] >> >> Owen >> >>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017, Chris James wrote: >>>> @Paul - The API key is to email it. >>>> >>>> @Owen - Very difficult when you have dynamic ranges, and vps/container >>>> platforms spanning tens of thousands of instances across these dynamic >>>> ranges. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Paul McNary <pmcn...@cameron.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Owen >>>>> >>>>> The reassignment policy page says IPv6 has to be done vi API. >>>>> Is that something else that is incorrect on the web site? >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/20/2017 3:16 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How can it be overly difficult to fill out an email template with your >>>>>> customers’ >>>>>> Name, Address, Phone Number? >>>>>> >>>>>> Really? >>>>>> >>>>>> Owen >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 23:48 , Pallieter Koopmans <pallie...@pallieter.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ARIN could quantify and require rules for when to SWIP, but in the >>>>>>> end, there are going to be exceptions needed if the rules are to be >>>>>>> strictly followed. Many will not separately SWIP a separately routed >>>>>>> sub-block if it is too difficult or pointless to gather and share that >>>>>>> data back upstream to ARIN. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thus a more fuzzy rule to require a best-effort and to add a >>>>>>> rule-based reason (preferably both a carrot and a stick) for block >>>>>>> owners to do their best to provide (only) useful data. In order to do >>>>>>> that, one needs to look back at why that data is needed. For a block >>>>>>> owner to assign the SWIP on a sub-block, he basically delegates tech >>>>>>> and abuse contact requests down to those that are probably more likely >>>>>>> to be able to actually act on the tech/abuse requests (and thus reduce >>>>>>> request-handling workload higher up and overall). 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