I need more input from the community on this one.  Unless you are one of
the two people who has responded already, please take time to respond to
the following questions.

Thank you.

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:18 PM, David Farmer <far...@umn.edu> wrote:

> There seems to be a bit of controversy on the direction to take this
> policy.  Therefore as the shepherd, it would be helpful to hear from
> additional community members regarding this policy.
>
> Do you support or oppose the policy as written?
>
> Do you think the inconsistency described in the Problem Statement should
> be corrected?
>
> If yes, should it be corrected by revising by section 8.5.4 to be
> consistent with section 4.2.2, as proposed by the current text?
>
> Or, as an alternative by revising section 4.2.2 to be consistent with
> section 8.5.4?
>
> Are there other alternatives to correct the inconsistency to be considered?
>
> Other suggestions or comments?
>
> Your additional feedback and participation are appreciated, thank you.
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:42 AM, ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote:
>
>> The following has been revised:
>>
>> * Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4
>> ISP Transfers
>>
>> Revised text is below and can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2017_9.html
>>
>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
>> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft
>> policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated
>> in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are:
>>
>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
>> * Technically Sound
>> * Supported by the Community
>>
>> The PDP can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
>>
>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
>> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sean Hopkins
>> Policy Analyst
>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>
>>
>>
>> Draft Policy ARIN-2017-9: Clarification of Initial Block Size for IPv4
>> ISP Transfers
>>
>> Problem Statement:
>>
>> It was noted in the ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report, that there is an
>> inconsistency in the initial block size for ISPs. Section 4.2.2 notes that
>> the initial ISP block size should be /21 whereas the initial block size in
>> 8.5.4 is noted as "minimum transfer size" which is effectively a /24. This
>> causes ISP organizations to be approved for different initial block size
>> depending on if they first apply for a transfer directly under section 8 or
>> if they apply for a block under section 4.  This policy is intended to
>> clarify this issue, by setting a consistent ISP initial IPv4 block size. It
>> was noted that ARIN staff current operational practice is to allow
>> qualified ISPs an initial /21 for Section 8 transfers when they first apply
>> and are approved under section 4.  If an organization applies under section
>> 8 first they are initially qualified for a /24; larger allocations require
>> additional documentation as noted in 8.5.5.
>>
>> Policy statement:
>>
>> Replace section 8.5.4;
>>
>> 8.5.4. Initial block
>>
>> Organizations without direct assignments or allocations from ARIN qualify
>> for the transfer of an initial IPv4 block, a /24 for assignments or a /24
>> up to a /21 for allocations.
>>
>> Comments:
>>
>> Timetable for implementation: Immediate
>>
>> Anything Else:
>>
>> The ARIN 40 Policy Experience Report is available at;
>>
>> Slides: https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN
>> _40/PDF/PPM/sweeting-policy-experience.pdf
>>
>> Transcript: https://www.arin.net/vault/participate/meetings/reports/ARIN
>> _40/ppm1_transcript.html#anchor_5
>>
>> Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVsfVMG_6fA
>>
>> Slides 10 - 13, located in the video from 6:30 to 8:30, are the relevant
>> portion of the report, questions from the audience follow.
>>
>
>
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