+1 Owen; I agree with this Draft policy. On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 5:31 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree with this Draft policy. > > This is clearly a legacy IPv4 policy. These reallocation requirements > were put in place to document use of IPv4 resources so that you could ask > for more. Without a free pool, this should not be required. > > As we move to the future of IPv6, this appears to be an unneeded act, as > nearly everyone who has applied for IPv6 resources has received a block > that will last for a very long time, and from what I understand during > discussion of another proposal last year, no one has had to come back to > expand their IPv6 block. Thus, there is no need to publically document > usage in order to apply for more space. Thus, the requirement for this > should be dropped from the NRPM. > > Albert Erdmann > Network Administrator > Paradise On Line Inc. > > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018, Hunter, Kathleen wrote: > > > +1 to Owens thoughts on this. I know we will continue to do this even > after the policy is cleaned. > > > > Kat Hunter > > Comcast LIR > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong > > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:45 AM > > To: Azinger, Marla <[email protected]> > > Cc: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove > Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments > > > > I will point out that removing the requirement does not prevent anyone > from continuing to provide the information. It merely makes it optional > instead of mandatory. > > > > In many cases, the reporting in question is an artifact of policy that > was specially crafted to aid CMTS-based providers in being able to obtain > sufficient IP space to actually provision networks while attempting to > avoid widespread and massive abuse through a gaping policy loophole. Given > the absence of an IPv4 free pool, that policy is no longer particularly > applicable and I believe some of it has already been eliminated. As such, > this is, IMHO, just some additional cleanup of the NRPM to further adapt to > a post-IPv4 world. > > > > Owen > > > > > >> On Jul 25, 2018, at 15:27 , Azinger, Marla <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> If I read this correct, you would be removing the requirement of public > records that display not just static re-allocations for a general > geographic area, but it would also remove Dynamic pool re-allocations. > >> > >> If I saw what requirement is being removed correctly, in either respect > should anyone stop doing those type of Re-allocations, they will receive an > increase of abuse calls from law enforcement given one layer of useful data > is being halted. It also might increase geographic route issues because I > have come across some companies that sell geo filter software based off > ARIN records. > >> > >> Food for thought > >> Marla > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ARIN > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2018 11:06 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [arin-ppml] Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove > >> Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market Assignments > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> WARNING: External email. Please verify sender before opening > attachments or clicking on links. > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> On 19 July 2018, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) advanced the following > Draft Policy to Recommended Draft Policy status: > >> > >> ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements for Residential Market > >> Assignments > >> > >> The text of the Recommended Draft Policy is below, and may also be > found at: > >> > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/2018_3.html > >> > >> You are encouraged to discuss all Recommended Draft Policies on PPML > prior to their presentation at the next ARIN Public Policy Consultation > (PPC). PPML and PPC discussions are invaluable to the AC when determining > community consensus. > >> > >> The PDP can be found at: > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html > >> > >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: > >> https://www.arin.net/policy/proposals/index.html > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Sean Hopkins > >> Policy Analyst > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > >> > >> > >> > >> Recommended Draft Policy ARIN-2018-3: Remove Reallocation Requirements > >> for Residential Market Assignments > >> > >> Advisory Council Statement of Conformance with Principles of Internet > Number Resource Policy: > >> > >> This recommended draft policy is technically sound, creating a fair and > impartial number policy. The draft policy removes the Residential Market > Area record keeping and publication requirement placed upon one segment of > the ISP population for ARIN IPv4 allocations. Since this requirement does > not apply to IPv4 transfers it is a legacy element of policy sustaining > administrative overhead for a subset of the community. No concerns have > been raised by the community and there has been demonstrable support since > its initial proposal. > >> > >> Problem Statement: > >> > >> Current number policy requires some organizations to create > reallocations or reassignments for residential subscribers. This > requirement complicates record keeping for ISPs. There is limited value > today for requiring these records be put into the ARIN database. > >> > >> ARIN number policy for a long time has required ISPs to add a > reallocation or reassignment record for each of their subscriber address > blocks. This policy dates from the original cable allocations as a method > to publicly show that a portion of a larger block has been put into use. > >> > >> Since ARIN no longer has a free pool of IPv4 addresses and requirements > for transfer are demonstrated without these records, this requirement is no > longer needed. > >> > >> Furthermore, this requirement complicates reallocation & reassignment > entry into the ARIN database.3 Removing this requirement could reduce the > complexity required for accurately maintaining reallocation and/or > reassignment records. > >> > >> Policy statement: > >> > >> Remove Section 4.2.3.7.3.1 (Residential Market Area) from the NRPM > >> > >> Comments: > >> > >> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ARIN-PPML > >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN > Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> > >> This communication is confidential. 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