I agree anything to curb this practice.  The fact we are asked to justify the 
need for the IPV4 space and people are getting them falsely needing them is 
frustrating. Joel LargeGeneral ManagerGLW Broadband Inc.440 926 3230Sent from 
my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Scott Leibrand 
<[email protected]> Date: 3/3/19  1:52 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Chris 
Woodfield <[email protected]> Cc: arin-ppml <[email protected]> Subject: Re: 
[arin-ppml] Draft Policy ARIN-2019-1: Clarify Section 4 IPv4
  Request Requirements Thanks for clarifying that, Chris. I support this draft 
policy proposal: forcing applicants to wait to get into line for free space 
will at least slow down any attempts to make money off the free pool via the 
waiting list. Scott> On Mar 3, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Chris Woodfield 
<[email protected]> wrote:> > Hi Tom - responses inline.> > One additional 
point - the current policy places a limit on how often an organization can 
receive resources from the waiting list. This draft changes the hold-down timer 
so that it now applies to *applications* for new allocations under the waiting 
list policy, not the receipt of resources from it.> >> On Mar 3, 2019, at 7:18 
AM, Tom Fantacone <[email protected]> wrote:>> >> Chris,>> >> The 
"clarification" part of your proposal seems to be a no brainer (the waiting 
period is meant to apply to allocations only under section 4).  I assume ARIN 
staff is already interpreting it this way since that was the intent of the 
section.  So I wouldn't sever it unless the full policy doesn't gain support in 
which case we could revisit just inserting the clarification part.>> > > That 
assumption is my understanding as well.> >> Regarding this:>> "- Disallows 
organizations that have transferred space to other parties within the past 12 
months from applying for additional IPv4 space under NRPM Section 4. ">> >> I 
want to make sure I understand it correctly.  If you transfer out space via 
8.2/8.3/8.4, does this restriction mean you just can't receive space via the 
waiting list for 12 months, or via any mechanism (waiting list/transfer) for 12 
months?  I think it means from the waiting list only, but want to be sure.>> > 
> That is correct - note the phrase “...under this section...” in the proposal 
text. > > Thanks,> > -Chris> > >> Tom>> >> >> >> ---- On Sat, 02 Mar 2019 
13:48:01 -0500 Chris Woodfield <[email protected]> wrote ---->> >> Speaking 
as the policy author, I’ll make two points:>> >> 1. I’m aware that given the 
other discussions around waiting list policy that are ongoing, this proposal 
may well be rendered moot by future policy changes. I still believe that this 
is worth pursuing as there’s a current need for clarification and increased 
disincentives for bad behavior today.>> 2. I’m deliberately killing two 
not-terribly-related birds with one stone with this proposal, based on the fact 
that the two issues noted from the PER can be addressed by adding language to 
the same NRPM text. Happy to consider severing them if the community prefers.>> 
>> Thanks,>> >> -Chris>> >>> On Mar 2, 2019, at 9:33 AM, [email protected] 
wrote:>>> >>> I think it is time to start the ball on the other policies.>>> 
>>> +1 on this. It seems focused on those gathering resources to resell.>>> >>> 
Albert Erdmann>>> Network Administrator>>> Paradise On Line Inc.>> t 
[email protected] if you experience any issues.>> >> > > 
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