Marilson,

Good definitions are the foundation. Without a good definition of exactly what 
a policy proposal (or standard) is addressing, the rest of the proposal is 
worthless.

In the case of the current draft of  prop-266, the term BGP Hijacking is not 
defined and I could not find a consistent definition of the term on the web. It 
seems that BGP hijacking and route hijacking might be synonyms. We’ve had a lot 
of discussion that has helped me understand what BGP/route hijacking is, but 
I’m not prepared to write a definition.

Keith

From: Marilson Mapa [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 8, 2019 1:53 AM
To: Keith W. Hare <[email protected]>
Cc: ARIN-PPML List <[email protected]>; Carlos Friaças <[email protected]>; 
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] [EXT] Re: Open Petition for ARIN-prop-266: BGP 
Hijacking is an ARIN Policy Violation

Keith, there are many ways to sabotage a work or avoid inconvenient rules. The 
most efficient way is to ask definitions. You asked for a definition. Although 
for many it is a difficult definition, it is very easy for me. The problem is 
that a list member have tied to your request twelve other definitions. He 
forgot to relate the definition of abuse. So we would have to define 14 items. 
It is like to be holding meetings when nothing wants to do. Not content to 
create a high equation to infinity, he disqualified prop-266 authors as 
professionals without "necessary training, experience, background, and 
technical expertise for such practice".

This is a classic argumentum ad hominem: a fallacy identified when one seeks to 
deny a proposition with a criticism to its author. Used in excess on this list 
and is never grounds for notification. But identifying the person and showing 
the use of this practice is considered ad hominem and reason for requesting 
expulsion by malicious persons or by who have a skeleton in the closet

For showing the absurd argumentum ad hominem of adviser David Farmer against 
the authors of prop-266, I was accused of ad hominem and some members asked for 
my expulsion. I would like to make to these individuals the question that was 
posted on this list: Are you doing hijacking and don't want interference?

"I welcome questions, and I hope ARIN will" try "to weigh correctly the 
assertions of people who have never" considered an ethical stance in their 
behavior.

Marilson
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