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Re the above; thank you for posting. Certainly congrats to ARIN. RD On Tue, May 14, 2019, 11:19 <[email protected]> wrote: > Send ARIN-PPML mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ARIN-PPML digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fwd: Advisory Council Recommendation Regarding NRPM > 4.1.8. Unmet Requests (Scott Leibrand) > 2. Of interest? (Mike Burns) > 3. Re: Of interest? (Chris James) > 4. Re: Of interest? (Mike Arbrouet) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 10:06:12 -0700 > From: Scott Leibrand <[email protected]> > To: Jimmy Hess <[email protected]> > Cc: Tom Pruitt <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Fwd: Advisory Council Recommendation > Regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests > Message-ID: > < > cagkmwz4rqwkhccrnoskagxvmpm+3z4v1d1irqve8mjtjeso...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If we did this, I suspect what would happen for the foreseeable future is > that all reclaimed space would be assigned out as /24s to everyone willing > to accept a /24 to fulfil their request. Anyone who insisted on a larger > block would get nothing, so there'd be no incentive to do so. That would > have the effect of giving a small number of space to the largest number of > organizations possible, which could be considered a feature or a bug > (increasing the number of routes that have to go into the global BGP > table). > > -Scott > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:00 AM Jimmy Hess <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 9:39 AM Tom Pruitt <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > >> If those organizations were watching the list, and moving up, it is > >> likely that they have made > >> > > business decisions based on that data with the assumption that they would > >> get an allocation > >> > > at some point. I believe the proposed allocation limit is being > >> discussed as a method to > >> > > > > Such speculations would not have been a very prudent to rely upon. > > Anyway: there is likely > > to not ever be a full /7, so a /7 cannot be allocated, for example. > Some > > "natural" limit exists, > > whether exactly known or not, and there's no guarantee of anyone on the > > list ever > > eventually getting filled. > > > > Perhaps it should simply be that when ordering the wait list --- All > > requests whether new or > > still pending each XX day period, say over 90 days will be considered > > simultaneously > > on one date, and in addition to being ordered by request date, the > > requests are sorted > > into buckets based on the number of total IP addresses requested, e.g.: > > > > All requests that can be satisfied at their minimum size by a /24, /23, > > /22, /21, or less (for example) > > in the entire waiting list, and those larger being processed today shall > > each be sorted into a > > corresponding "bucket" with other requests that can be satisfied at > that > > size. > > > > All requests from every bucket of smaller sized requests shall be > > satisfied in at least their > > minimum size before considering requests in any buckets of larger size. > > > > > > In this manner a "larger request" like a /20 could in theory be made, > but > > even if that request was pending for 2 years: all the new requests > > that can be > > satisfied by /24 or less, then /23 or less, then /22 or less, then /21 > > or less should > > be considered and filled first. > > > > So to have any chance of filling a massive allocation, then that should > > mean the > > waiting list has become essentially empty..... > > > > -- > > -JH > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20190513/e473c2c2/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 11:10:05 -0400 > From: "Mike Burns" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [arin-ppml] Of interest? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I found this to be an interesting article and perhaps others on the list > would appreciate knowing about it. > > > > > https://www.news-journal.com/ap/national/arin-wins-important-legal-case-and- > precedent-against-fraud/article_ceb57140-e574-5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html > <https://www.news-journal.com/ap/national/arin-wins-important-legal-case-and-precedent-against-fraud/article_ceb57140-e574-5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html> > > > > Regards, > > Mike Burns > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20190514/fbd4c972/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 14 May 2019 08:16:20 -0700 > From: Chris James <[email protected]> > To: Mike Burns <[email protected]> > Cc: ARIN-PPML List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of interest? > Message-ID: > <CALABLda26qrxBxSbA3HVCu3rrkpMmuLvxnGt9= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Congratulations Mr Curran and staff! > > Thank you Mike for the heads up. I missed this one. > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:10 AM Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I found this to be an interesting article and perhaps others on the list > > would appreciate knowing about it. > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.news-journal.com/ap/national/arin-wins-important-legal-case-and-precedent-against-fraud/article_ceb57140-e574-5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Mike Burns > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > > > > -- > LargePrefPlaceholder-XKUz1MEJBwkOM > > -- > This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged > information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). > Any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the > taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. > E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they > can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. 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And thanks for sharing. > > Mike Arbrouet, CISSP > > > ________________________________ > From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> on behalf of Chris James < > [email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2019 10:16:20 AM > To: Mike Burns > Cc: ARIN-PPML List > Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Of interest? > > Congratulations Mr Curran and staff! > > Thank you Mike for the heads up. I missed this one. > > On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 8:10 AM Mike Burns <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> wrote: > I found this to be an interesting article and perhaps others on the list > would appreciate knowing about it. > > > https://www.news-journal.com/ap/national/arin-wins-important-legal-case-and-precedent-against-fraud/article_ceb57140-e574-5355-a8b3-c8f8c70a439e.html > > Regards, > Mike Burns > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any > issues. > > > -- > LargePrefPlaceholder-XKUz1MEJBwkOM > > This e-mail message may contain confidential or legally privileged > information and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). > Any unauthorized disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or the > taking of any action in reliance on the information herein is prohibited. > E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they > can be intercepted, amended, or contain viruses. 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