While I agree with the sentiment, I wonder how one could measure/identify such 
instances.

Owen


> On May 24, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Michael Williams <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
> Agreed on the company acquisition model for transfer as long as the
> company was not established for the sole purpose of acquiring more IP
> or bypassing the waitlist limit or maximum /20 limit.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 25 May 2019, at 03:40, Hayee Bokhari <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I support non-transferability of waitlist space and limited,
>> 
>> However Transfer from one entity to other should be allowed,
>> 
>> -When a merger is taken place
>> -A company goes out of business and trustee takes over
>> 
>> I see while we are discussing limiting the waiting list to /21 or /22 there 
>> are entries being added in waiting list for blocks bigger then /21, what 
>> will happen to these waiting list entries, in other words what is the plan 
>> for existing entries in the waiting list.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Hayee
>> 
>> 
>>> I support the AC’s recommendations, and consider them sufficient to resume 
>>> waitlist allocations.
>>> 
>>> I would also be fine with Michael’s #2 (non-transferability of waitlist 
>>> space), but would consider that a new proposal. I don’t support a larger 
>>> (/21) limit.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>>> On May 24, 2019, at 10:18 AM, Michael Williams 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Representing ARIN member organisation GLEXI-3, I disagree with the
>>>> language of this policy proposal. Specifically:
>>>> 
>>>> 1) The maximum waitlist size should be a /21
>>>> 2) The policy should require all IP allocations received from the
>>>> waitlist be returned to ARIN if they are no longer used. IP
>>>> allocations received via the waitlist should not be transferred, sold,
>>>> or otherwise acquired in any other fashion.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Williams
>>>> President/CEO Glexia, Inc
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 May 2019, at 03:04, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> At their 16 May meeting, the Advisory Council revised their 
>>>>> recommendation regarding NRPM 4.1.8. Unmet Requests.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The revised recommendation is hereby submitted to the Public Policy 
>>>>> Mailing List for a second community discussion period of 14 days, to 
>>>>> conclude on 7 June.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once completed, the Board of Trustees will review the AC’s recommendation 
>>>>> and the PPML discussion.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The full text of the Advisory Council's revised recommendation is below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean Hopkins
>>>>> Policy Analyst
>>>>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Advisory Council recommendation:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is an updated version which incorporates feedback from the ARIN 
>>>>> staff and was approved for further community consultation at the ARIN AC 
>>>>> meeting on May 16, 2019.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In accordance with section 10.2 of the ARIN Policy Development Process, 
>>>>> the ARIN Advisory Council recommends the following actions to the Board 
>>>>> of Trustees in response to the Board’s suspension of part of the 
>>>>> operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 of the Numbering 
>>>>> Resource Policy Manual:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Replace section 4.1.8 et. seq. as follows, then reinstate the full 
>>>>> operation of sections 4.1.8, 4.1.8.1 and 4.1.8.2 immediately.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4.1.8 ARIN Waitlist
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARIN will only issue future IPv4 assignments/allocations (excluding 4.4 
>>>>> and 4.10 space) from the ARIN Waitlist. The maximum size aggregate that 
>>>>> an organization may qualify for at any one time is a /22. Organizations 
>>>>> will be able to elect a smaller block size than they qualify for down to 
>>>>> a /24. Only organizations holding a /20 or less of IPv4 address space may 
>>>>> apply and be approved. Address space distributed from the waitlist will 
>>>>> not be eligible for transfer for a period of 60 months. This policy will 
>>>>> be applied to all future distributions from the waitlist to include those 
>>>>> currently listed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Repeated requests, in a manner that would circumvent 4.1.6, are not 
>>>>> allowed: an organization currently on the waitlist must wait 90 days 
>>>>> after receiving a distribution from the waitlist before applying for 
>>>>> additional space. ARIN, at its sole discretion, may waive this 
>>>>> requirement if the requester can document a change in circumstances since 
>>>>> their last request that could not have been reasonably foreseen at the 
>>>>> time of the original request, and which now justifies additional space. 
>>>>> Qualified requesters whose request will also be advised of the 
>>>>> availability of the transfer mechanism in section 8.3 as an alternative 
>>>>> mechanism to obtain IPv4 addresses.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4.1.8.1 Sequencing
>>>>> 
>>>>> The position of each qualified request on the waiting list will be 
>>>>> determined by the date it was approved. Each organization may have one 
>>>>> approved request on the waiting list at a time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4.1.8.2 Fulfillment
>>>>> 
>>>>> ARIN will fulfill requests on a first-approved basis, subject to the size 
>>>>> of each available address block as address blocks become available for 
>>>>> distribution. A timely review of the original request may be conducted by 
>>>>> ARIN staff. Requests will not be partially filled. Any requests met 
>>>>> through a transfer will be considered fulfilled and removed from the 
>>>>> waiting list.
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