If an organization runs multiple discrete networks, how do you propose that 
they NAT each site without IPv4? Discrete networks, by definition, do not have 
internal connectivity between them. 

Scott

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 12:03 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> I am opposed.
> 
> This space is to allow IPv6 networks access to IPv4 resources so that the 
> users on these networks can connect to IPv4 resources.
> 
> Current practice for CGnat generally use a block of 4.10 IPv4 resources to 
> provide such interconnect for many /64 networks.  Giving them a /21 to be 
> able to have a CGnat at each site does not seem a good use of this block. 
> This is more than what was proposed for the regular waiting list, limited to 
> a /22. The goal of the block is for IPv4 connectivity until a future time 
> when IPv4 is no longer the primary transport on the internet.  It was 
> intended to be a shared block, and not one where each user could have their 
> own IPv4 address.
> 
> Albert Erdmann
> Network Administrator
> Paradise On Line Inc.
> 
>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2019, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, everyone.
>> 
>> The AC is currently considering this draft policy which would provide for 
>> Multiple Discrete Networks to be able to get more than one block under 4.10 
>> for up to 8 discrete sites within a six month period.
>> 
>> So far, there has been little comment on the list. The AC would like to 
>> encourage feedback whether positive or negative in nature about this 
>> proposal (though always constructive in any case).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Owen
>> 
>> Proposal text:
>> 
>> Problem Statement:
>> Currently, applicants for IPv4 resources under section 4.10 of the NRPM who 
>> do so under a single OrgID of the NRPM may only obtain one /24 every six 
>> months for the OrgID, even in the case where multiple discrete networks 
>> (MDNs) as defined in section 4.5 of the NRPM are grouped under that OrgID. 
>> On the other hand, where MDNs are held under different OrgIDs associated the 
>> same entity, the six-month constraint would apply to each discrete network 
>> separately. This results in unfair allocations of resources based solely on 
>> how entities choose to associate MDNs with their OrgIDs. This policy 
>> rectifies that problem by placing MDNs on an equal footing for the purpose 
>> of section 4.10 allocations regardless of how they are grouped by OrgID by 
>> the same ultimate entity.
>> Policy Statement:
>> Bullet 1. under section 4.10 of the NRPM is amended to read:
>> the applicant may not have received resources under this policy in the 
>> preceding six months, except to the extent that the applicant is r
>> equesting resources for a discrete network in respect of which it has not 
>> received any resources under this policy in the preceding six months;
>> Add a new bullet 6 that reads:
>> An applicant requesting multiple allocations under this policy to support 
>> Multiple Discrete Networks, as defined under Section 4.5, may not receive 
>> more than the equivalent of a /21 of IPv4 address space in any one six-month 
>> period hereunder.
>> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate
>> Anything Else:
>> To what extent should the passage of this policy be contingent or 
>> independent of whether any ultimate cap is imposed on the total quantity of 
>> IPv4 resources that an entity can obtain under section 4.10 regardless of 
>> the number of OrgIDs associated with the entity or number of MDNs it holds.
>> 
>> ==========
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