The more I think about this proposal, the more disturbed I am by the following concept…
I do not think we should be building policy to facilitate the creation or expansion of “IPv4 landlords”. If an organization wishes to monetize its existing space through leasing rather than sale, I think this is a valid and perhaps even necessary service as mentioned in today’s meeting. However, I do not want to see ARIN accepting “We’re acquiring more space in order to lease it out later” as a valid reason for approving a transfer into an organization. I think that legitimizing such transactions only creates additional incentives to distort the market. As far as organizations which cannot afford IPv4 are concerned, I think that the general solution is a combination of IPv6 and NRPM 4.10. Owen > On Nov 1, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have trouble with both phrases. > > Even if the resources are to be re-assigned to organizations or entities > which do not receive connectivity from the original registrant, I see no > reason to issue addresses to anyone who will not be using them on an > operational network. > > Owen > > >> On Oct 31, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Scott Leibrand <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:03 PM Kiran Malancharuvil <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> Prior to tomorrow's community discussion of Draft Policy ARIN-2019-18, I >> wanted to offer some clarification and propose some language for >> consideration to address questions posed on the PPML. >> >> Regarding the question over the intended meaning of "non-connected >> networks", I will clarify that I mean this policy to refer to re-assignment >> to organizations and entities which do not receive connectivity from the >> original registrant. >> >> As such, I wanted to offer the following alternative edit to 8.5.2: >> >> 8.5.2 Operational Use >> ARIN allocates or assigns number resources to organizations via transfer >> primarily for the purpose of use on an operational network, but may allocate >> or assign number resources to organizations for other purposes, including >> re-assignment to organizations and entities which do not receive >> connectivity from the original registrant. >> >> >> I believe this is consistent with the intent of 2019-18, and I would support >> this language. >> >> >> >> Alternatively, and more simply, since the sentence referencing >> "non-connected networks" starts with "including" and is therefore not meant >> to be an exclusive "other purpose", but rather illustrative, we can remove >> it entirely. That option would read: >> >> 8.5.2 Operational Use >> ARIN allocates or assigns number resources to organizations via transfer >> primarily for the purpose of use on an operational network, but may allocate >> or assign number resources to organizations for other purposes. >> >> I believe this is materially different than the text above, in that it would >> give ARIN permission to approve transfers for any reason whatsoever. ARIN in >> the past has interpreted such ambiguity in favor of allowing whatever is not >> expressly prohibited. As such, I don't think this language accomplishes the >> original intent, and would oppose it. >> >> -Scott >> >> *please note that the online version of the policy proposal reads "solely >> primarily" instead of "primarily". This is a typo due to originally >> proposing the language with the word "solely" in strike-through text >> (solely), which did not translate. >> >> Further, I want to clarify, as the original author of the proposal, that the >> key intent of the policy is to acknowledge that small and medium-sized >> businesses have a need for IPv4 space, but often cannot afford to buy space >> in the current market. Legitimizing a subleasing market increases >> accessibility to IPv4 space, and opens the market to business solutions to >> facilitate safe, trusted subleasing practices, including keeping the correct >> registry updated. >> >> Thanks all for the continued discussion. >> >> Best, >> >> Kiran >> -- >> Kiran Malancharuvil >> Open-i Advisors >> p: 415 419 9138 >> http://openiadvisors.com >> <http://openiadvisors.com/>_______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >> issues. >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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