To those who oppose because they find the mechanism in the proposal is
not effective do you have an alternative and more effective text to
propose so the author may consider a change. I guess if you the current
is ineffective the alternative would have to be more complex but still
objective.
The point I believe is not about creating hurdles for IPv4 but a natural
and quiet obvious move to what IS the current Internet protocol and what
must work in order for Internet to survive. Otherwise why would ARIN's
Board issue such resolution in that sense ? And there are plenty of
other Internet related organizations in the same direction.
There will be conflicts in either cases, if things a left loose are they
are at the people's pleasure there will be as mentioned, growing
conflicts regarding IPv4 exhaustion and they tend to grow quiet fastly.
If things push for transition to IPv6 (in this case much more softly)
there will be conflicts with those who believe they have the right to
hold themselves and all others to the past.
Even more important is that due to these ones willing to wash their
hands and deny evolution making *all others will be paying the price*
due not only the problems caused by the lack of IPv4 but also to the
price increasing they will have to pay should they to need to purchase
any extra chunk of addresses to be able to exist in the internet while
there is a feasible solution available.
That's why it is very reasonable and fair that this same impacted
community desire to have more mechanisms to that direction and is
completely legit they come out from a change in the policy
Between both types of conflicts my bet is that the second which means
evolution will prevail.
Best regards
Fernando
On 06/11/2019 18:08, David Farmer wrote:
I oppose this policy.
I'm not convinced of the efficacy of this policy, the policy's ability
to produce its intended or desired result. I presume the intended
result is to increase the deployment of IPv6. I'm not convinced that
creating artificial hurdles for IPv4 will increase the deployment of
IPv6 in any way. If the natural hurdle of having to go to the market
to get IPv4 isn't enough to convince people to deploy IPv6, why would
this artificial hurdle convince them? Given human nature, if this
policy goes forward, I expect many people will turn on IPv6 to
complete their IPv4 transfer and then simply turn IPv6 off again, the
end result does nothing for IPv6 deployment. Further, I suspect this
policy is more likely to antagonize people against deploying IPv6 more
than it is will incentivize them toward deploying IPv6.
Please let's not go in this direction.
Thanks.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 11:55 AM ARIN <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 1 November 2019, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted
"ARIN-prop-278: Require IPv6 Before Receiving Section 8 IPv4
Transfers"
as a Draft Policy.
Draft Policy ARIN-2019-19 is below and can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_19/
You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will
evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this
draft
policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as
stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these
principles are:
* Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration
* Technically Sound
* Supported by the Community
The PDP can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/
Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at:
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/
Regards,
Sean Hopkins
Policy Analyst
American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN)
Draft Policy ARIN-2019-19: Require IPv6 Before Receiving Section 8
IPv4
Transfers
Problem Statement:
On 7 May 2007 the ARIN Board unanimously passed an IPv6
resolution. In
2011, the last /8 blocks were assigned to the RIR’s and has now been
over 4 years since the IPv4 free pool was exhausted at ARIN.
Now is the time for ARIN to require those who receive transferred
IPv4
space to have in place an operational IPv6 network.
Policy statement:
In section 8.5.2, add the following language to the end of the
paragraph
entitled “Operational Use”:
Such operational network must at minimum include an allocation or
assignment by ARIN of IPv6 address space under the same Org ID
receiving
the transferred IPv4 space. Such Org must be able to prove this IPv6
space is being routed by using it to communicate with ARIN.
In the event the receiver provides a written statement from its
upstream
that IPv6 connectivity is unavailable, the IPv6 requirement may be
waived.
Timetable for Implementation: Upon Passage
Anything Else:
The following was included in the IPv6 resolution:
BE IT RESOLVED, that this Board of Trustees hereby requests the ARIN
Advisory Council to consider Internet Numbering Resource Policy
changes
advisable to encourage migration to IPv6 numbering resources where
possible.
This proposal is part of an effort to encourage migration to IPv6.
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