> Reminds me of ISDN : I Still Don't Need. Look around you and tell me where
> you see ISDN. There is still plenty of POTS, and plenty of aDSL over POTS,
> not over ISDN.

I beg your pardon???

BRIs are an utter market failure, for (unusually) mostly technical reasons.  
The economic reasons were driven by the technical reason - to wit, installing 
BRI shelves into a Nortel DMS-100 provided 16 (iirc) BRIs in a space that could 
otherwise supply ~200 POTS lines.  There's only so much room in a CO, there's 
only so many shelves in only so many cabinets, so BRIs wound up being priced 
sky-high, at around 16/200 the price of a POTS line.

PRIs, however, are still alive and doing VERY well, despite the advent of VoIP 
which promises to replace them.  In many rural markets, PRIs are the only 
land-line option for "high-speed" data, and companies are *still* doing 
silly-but-needful things like bonding 16 PRIs together in locations where they 
can't feasibly run microwave radio.


> The only thing that IPv6 could do for me is to waste my resources configuring 
> it.

...or arguing about it, although admittedly I'm doing the same right now.


> It's been 20 years, and you need to tell me that I need to dual-stack and
> wait another 20 years ?
> You want me to go tell my investors that I need money to spend on an
> upgrade that provides ZERO ROI for at least 10 years ?

No.  The proposed policy does not tell you to upgrade everything and deploy 
IPv6 everywhere.  You're not even constructing a straw-man argument, your 
argument appears to be entirely fallacious (unless I've forgotten something 
vital about the proposal?).


> If such policy comes to pass, it will be challenged. ARIN has no business
> forcing me to spend time to configure IPv6 in order for me to administer
> IPv4 resources.
> 
> This proposal is flawed. Forcing people to register IPv6 prefixes so the
> IPv6 deployment figures look better. It's a lie.
> It's a lie to make some numbers look good.

It's not a lie at all.  Yes, it will produce somewhat artificial results if you 
use it to measure penetration or deployment, which we don't because it's 
already inflated.  Yes, we'll have to measure real deployment using other tools 
- just like we do now.
How do you measure how many adults in the western world today still have most 
of their teeth because of fluoridation?  Did any of us *want* to brush our 
teeth as kids?
The policy is for your own good, and mine, and the good of entities who aren't 
even members yet, and the good of entities in other regions.
IF that means ARIN members are being treated like children, it's because so 
many of them have behaved that way.  And here we get into geopolitics again, 
which is rather out-of-scope for PPML.


Adam Thompson
Consultant, Infrastructure Services
MERLIN
100 - 135 Innovation Drive
Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
(204) 977-6824 or 1-800-430-6404 (MB only)
[email protected]
www.merlin.mb.ca

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