Thank you for the clarification Joe. I have no further discussion of this draft at this time. — Brian Jones
On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 9:15 AM Joe Provo <p...@rsuc.gweep.net> wrote: > > <AC hat> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 01:43:25PM -0500, Brian Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 11:34 AM Andrew Dul <andrew....@quark.net> > wrote: > > > > > I would say as a continuing ARIN member they are responsible for > keeping > > > up their POC and abuse records just like any other member. > > > > > > Andrew > > > > > > > Point being, if those address blocks are ignored long enough, they could > be > > reclaimed eventually by ARIN for repurposing? > > > Brian, > > Since none of the updates to language affected that, I'm > with Andrew as the previous S&L would have specified. Once > this language settles and we seek the next S&L we can call > out the concern to be directly addressed so there's no > ambiguity. > > To that end, it'd be great if we could get any additional > feedback on the current language in the next week. I'd love > to iron out any further changes so we can have concensus > on the text by the next AC meeting > > </AC hat> > > Cheers! > > Joe > > > > > On 1/28/2020 11:52 AM, Brian Jones wrote: > > > > > > > > > Question: Does this mean that the entity responsible for the continued > > > resource holdings is subject to keeping up the POC and abuse contact > > > information for each of the locations or allocation blocks where it > > > continues to use ARIN resources? > > > > > > ??? > > > Brian Jones > > > NI&S Virginia Tech > > > bjo...@vt.edu > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 7:23 AM ARIN <i...@arin.net> wrote: > > > > > >> The following has been revised: > > >> > > >> * Draft Policy ARIN-2019-12: M&A Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion > > >> > > >> Revised text is below and can be found at: > > >> > > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2019_12/ > > >> > > >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will > > >> evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this > Draft > > >> Policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as > > >> stated in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these > > >> principles are: > > >> > > >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration > > >> * Technically Sound > > >> * Supported by the Community > > >> > > >> The PDP can be found at: > > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ > > >> > > >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: > > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Sean Hopkins > > >> Policy Analyst > > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Draft Policy ARIN-2019-12: M&A Legal Jurisdiction Exclusion > > >> > > >> Problem Statement: > > >> > > >> Merger and acquisition activity sometimes results in a surviving legal > > >> entity that is not in ARIN service region, but may prefer to continue > > >> the pre-existing relationship with ARIN. > > >> > > >> Example: Imagine a case where a global company has decided to > > >> discontinue service in the ARIN service region (shuttering ARIN region > > >> offices laying off ARIN region employees, and canceling ARIN region > > >> customers) and repurpose the network resources and number resources in > > >> the rest of its global footprint. During restructuring the company > > >> concentrates its holdings in its European subsidiary, and then > dissolved > > >> its US legal entity. > > >> > > >> Imagine a case where a global company has decided to divest its > service > > >> in the ARIN region (selling all ARIN region offices, all ARIN region > > >> network assets, all ARIN service region customers, all number > resources > > >> used in the ARIN (associated with previous noted sale of network and > > >> customers), but retaining ARIN issued resources in use outside of the > > >> ARIN service region. During restructuring the company concentrates its > > >> holdings which are not in us in the ARIN service region in its > European > > >> subsidiary, and then sells off its US legal entity (including the > > >> network, customers, addresses in use, etc) dissolved its US legal > entity. > > >> > > >> Policy Statement: > > >> > > >> Add the following to section 8.2 > > >> > > >> Mergers, acquisitions, and reorganization activity resulting in the > > >> surviving entity ceasing to have a real and substantial connection > with > > >> the ARIN region shall be permitted to continue holding any numbering > > >> resources issued (directly or indirectly) by ARIN prior to the merger, > > >> acquisition or reorganization activity, but shall not qualify for any > > >> additional numbering resources (directly or indirectly) from ARIN, > > >> unless and until it once again has a real and substantial connection > > >> with the ARIN region as required by the Numbering Resource Policy > Manual. > > >> > > >> Timetable for Implementation: Immediate > > >> > > >> Anything Else: > > >> > > >> This proposal may be overtaken by a more general approach to ARIN > > >> membership legal jurisdiction exclusion > > >> > > >> To clarify scope, a legal entity present within the ARIN service > region, > > >> and a current ARIN RSA executed with that entity, is necessary to > > >> receive allocations or assignments from ARIN. Therefore in the > scenario > > >> postulated in the problem statement, the organization would have to > > >> re-establish itself within the ARIN service region to receive > additional > > >> resources from ARIN, while it can continue to hold the allocations or > > >> assignments made prior to any merger, acquisition, or reorganization > > >> activity. > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> ARIN-PPML > > >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > >> Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ARIN-PPML > > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > ARIN-PPML > > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (ARIN-PPML@arin.net). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact i...@arin.net if you experience any issues. > > > -- > Posted from my personal account - see X-Disclaimer header. > Joe Provo / Gweep / Earthling >
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