I’m not endorsing anything, but the remarks that Chris regarding the content he commented on were good observations that are typical of our lack of writing standards for the NRPM. I could see budget being spent on improving that.
Andrew: How does a public 32 bit ASN reduce the need to use a private ASN? Warm regards, -M< On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 4:38 PM Andrew Dul <[email protected]> wrote: > Based upon the input we have received from ARIN staff it seems that > additional clarity is desired in section 5 for ASN assignments. > > I am not convinced however that the current draft text is the best way > to fix the issues raised so far. I don't have specific test suggestions > at this point but believe we should discuss how the text should be > improved in light of how ASNs are now being used by various cloud > providers and the fact that ASNs are now 32-bits in length which in many > cases reduces the need to use private AS numbers. > > Andrew > > On 7/20/2021 5:23 PM, Chris Woodfield wrote: > > Speaking in support, but I’d like to recommend an adjustment in the > proposal text. I think the phrase “unique routing policy, such as BGP” is > technically incorrect; BGP is a protocol, not a policy. BGP is how a > network *communicates* the relevant aspects of its unique routing policy to > its peers, but is not the policy in and of itself. > > > > As such, where the proposal text says “unique routing policy, such as > BGP”, I think this should read “unique routing policy, implemented via BGP” > - that should fix the bug here. > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > -C > > > >> On Jul 20, 2021, at 12:52 PM, ARIN <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> On 15 July 2021, the ARIN Advisory Council (AC) accepted > "ARIN-prop-298: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications" > as a Draft Policy. > >> > >> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3 is below and can be found at: > >> > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/ > >> > >> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will > evaluate the discussion in order to assess the conformance of this draft > policy with ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated > in the Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: > >> > >> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration > >> * Technically Sound > >> * Supported by the Community > >> > >> The PDP can be found at: > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ > >> > >> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: > >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Sean Hopkins > >> Senior Policy Analyst > >> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) > >> > >> > >> > >> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy > Clarifications > >> > >> Problem Statement: > >> > >> At ARIN 47, staff identified three points of potential confusion with > current text in NRPM Section 5: AS Numbers. > >> > >> 1. “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more > of the AS Numbers reserved for private use.” Some customers are not aware > that their need for a unique AS Number depends upon their need (or lack > thereof) to utilize the AS Number on the public Internet. > >> > >> 2. “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization > must provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following…A > unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway peers)…A > multihomed site.” Few customers qualify for an AS Number under the “unique > routing policy” requirement, specifically because they aren’t aware of what > “unique routing policy” applies to. > >> > >> 3. “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should > request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately > become multihomed.” All ARIN delegations are based on current needs, and > some customers aren’t aware they need network plans when they request an AS > Number. Additionally, clarification that some organizations may have a > unique need for an AS Number outside of utilizing a unique routing policy, > such as BGP. > >> > >> Policy statement: > >> > >> In Section 5 - > >> > >> Replace > >> > >> “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of > the AS Numbers reserved for private use.” > >> > >> with > >> > >> “Private ASNs should be used only when there is no plan to use them on > the public Internet.” > >> > >> Replace > >> > >> “1. A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway > peers) 2. A multihomed site.” > >> > >> with > >> > >> “1. A plan to connect their network using a unique routing policy, such > as Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) 2. A network requiring routing policies to > be deployed which are unique only to that network” > >> > >> Replace > >> > >> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should > request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately > become multihomed.” > >> > >> with > >> > >> “AS Numbers should be requested when an organization has network plans > ready and is either planning to use a unique routing policy (such as BGP) > or has a unique need for an AS Number.” > >> > >> Timetable for implementation: Immediate > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> ARIN-PPML > >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > _______________________________________________ > > ARIN-PPML > > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >
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