On 27 Aug 2021, at 6:59 PM, Owen DeLong 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Since you have, in the past, repeatedly admonished people, myself included, 
that ppml is for discussion of matters relating to ARIN policy, is this a 
general expansion of the list charter going forward, or merely an exception 
you’re making for this topic?

Owen -

As noted when arin-discuss was closed 
<https://www.arin.net/announcements/20210804/> –

ARIN does have a variety of mailing lists that provide valuable forums for 
community input and were established on a strictly opt-in basis. These include 
the Public Policy Mailing List (arin-ppml) for policy; Technical Discussions 
mailing list (arin-tech-discuss) for providing technical feedback to ARIN or 
seeking information from others in the community who are working with technical 
aspects of ARIN’s services; and the Consultation mailing list (arin-consult) 
that is used to solicit input from the community on variety of consultations 
and suggestions including changes to ARIN processes and services, fees, and 
feedback on suggestions from the community. These mailing lists are open for 
all to use in accordance with ARIN’s Mailing List AUP and Standards of Behavior.

Considering the very infrequent and ineffective use of arin-discuss and the 
abundance of other functional lists for community engagement, the arin-discuss 
mailing list has been retired.

I will observe that we've actually have had relatively light-handed 
administration of arin-ppml; i.e. in perusing the archives, I can find many 
discussions of topics not strictly policy-related - e.g. ARIN’s RSA, services, 
fee changes, route hijacking, legacy resources, number resource abuse, etc., 
etc.  (The vast majority of warnings issued for ARIN mailing list AUP 
violations have been for not be respectful of other community participants.)

We’re evaluating options for community discussion that won’t suffer from the 
foibles of our past arin-discuss mailing list, but to the extent that there is 
an announcement posted to ppml in the meantime, it is reasonable to assume that 
one may engage in discussion of the announcement on the mailing list.

Thanks,
/John

John Curran
President and CEO
American Registry for Internet Numbers








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