> On Sep 19, 2021, at 14:35 , John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 19 Sep 2021, at 1:12 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> On Sep 19, 2021, at 06:32 , John Curran <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I actually haven’t said that – what I said is that your assertion that the >>> costs are linear (i.e. per IP address represented) are not realistic, nor >>> is the single fee per-registry-object-regardless-of-size approach >>> realistic. >>> >>> Our fee schedule scales in a geometric manner, so the smallest resource >>> holders are paying only $250/year and the largest paying hundreds of >>> thousands per year. Does it reflect perfect cost allocation? Almost >>> certainly not, since it generallizations the entire ARIN customer base into >>> a simple set of fee categories. It may not be perfect but I believe it is >>> as simple, fair and clear as is possible under the circumstances. >> >> You got two out of three. It’s as simple and clear as possible. > > Thanks – that’s good to hear. > >> It clearly subsidizes LIRs on the backs of end users that are just ever so >> slightly larger than the very smallest. > > > It is true that the 8022 end-user customers will be paying a larger portion > of overall registry expenses (totaling approx. 1/3 of ARIN's total costs), > but “subsidizes” is probably not a correct characterization – as they will be > paying $860 per year on average as compared to the $2341 paid annually on > average by the existing ISP customers.
So your assertion is that LIRs only constitute 75% of ARIN’s expenses? Unless you can make that claim, it is, indeed, subsidy. > Yes, this does mean an increase in annual fee for those end-users > organizations who have more IPv4 number resources, but it also means a > reduction for more than three thousand end-user organizations who have the > typical single /24 IPv4 address block. That’s an extremely low cutoff for the end-user organizations worthy of consideration. A /22 can legitimately still be a very small end-user organization and this latest fee hike, especially in light of double billing for LRSA+RSA end-users in light of the previous restructuring efforts to screw these particular end users is quite painful. Owen
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