That also works for me. Owen
> On Mar 15, 2022, at 12:42 , Andrew Dul <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd like to propose another option for the last part of section5, to make it > clear that a planning and implementation period is permissible. > > > "AS Numbers shall be issued to organizations meeting section 5 criteria and > up to 12 months prior to planned implementation on their network." > > > > On 3/8/2022 7:54 PM, Owen DeLong via ARIN-PPML wrote: >> I’m fine with all but the last change… The new wording is potentially more >> problematic than the old wording in that “current need” might imply that one >> needs to already be multi homed before one can get an ASN, which creates a >> bit of a catch-22 which is the reason for the “or immediately become…” >> language. >> >> I suggest instead that we consider the following: >> >> AS Numbers are based on current need, as set out in this section 5. However, >> a site which plans to begin exchanging inter domain routing protocols with >> other autonomous systems upon receipt of the ASN requested is considered to >> have current need. >> >> This would, IMHO, have the clarifying effect which is sought in the problem >> statement. >> >> Owen >> >> >>> On Mar 8, 2022, at 06:51, ARIN <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> The following Draft Policy has been revised: >>> >>> * ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy Clarifications >>> >>> Revised text is below and can be found at: >>> >>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/ >>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_3/> >>> >>> You are encouraged to discuss all Draft Policies on PPML. The AC will >>> evaluate the discussion to assess the conformance of this Draft Policy with >>> ARIN's Principles of Internet number resource policy as stated in the >>> Policy Development Process (PDP). Specifically, these principles are: >>> >>> * Enabling Fair and Impartial Number Resource Administration >>> * Technically Sound >>> * Supported by the Community >>> >>> The PDP can be found at: >>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/ >>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/pdp/> >>> >>> Draft Policies and Proposals under discussion can be found at: >>> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/ >>> <https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Sean Hopkins >>> Senior Policy Analyst >>> American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN) >>> >>> >>> >>> Draft Policy ARIN-2021-3: Private AS Number and Unique Routing Policy >>> Clarifications >>> >>> Problem Statement: >>> >>> At ARIN 47, staff identified three points of potential confusion with >>> current text in NRPM Section 5: AS Numbers. >>> >>> “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of the >>> AS Numbers reserved for private use.” Some customers are not aware that >>> their need for unique AS Numbers depends upon their need (or lack thereof) >>> to interconnect with other organizations’ Autonomous >>> Systems. >>> >>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must >>> provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following…A unique >>> routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway peers)…A >>> multihomed site.” Few customers qualify for AS Numbers under the “unique >>> routing policy” requirement, because they don’t understand what “unique >>> routing policy” actually means in practice. >>> >>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should >>> request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately >>> become multihomed.” All ARIN delegations are based on current needs, and >>> some customers aren’t aware they need network plans when they request AS >>> Numbers. Additionally, clarification that some organizations may have a >>> unique need for an AS Number outside of utilizing a unique routing policy, >>> such as one implemented using, for example, a protocol such as Border >>> Gateway Protocol (BGP) >>> >>> Policy statement: >>> >>> In Section 5 - >>> >>> Replace >>> >>> “Sites that do not require a unique AS Number should use one or more of the >>> AS Numbers reserved for private use.” >>> >>> with >>> >>> “If a unique AS Number is not required for a given network design, one or >>> more of the AS Numbers reserved for private use should be utilized.” >>> >>> Replace >>> >>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must >>> provide ARIN with verification that it has one of the following >>> >>> A unique routing policy (its policy differs from its border gateway >>> peers) 2. A multihomed site” >>> >>> with >>> >>> “In order to be assigned an AS Number, each requesting organization must >>> provide ARIN with verification that it requires a unique routing policy, >>> such as a plan: >>> >>> To originate announcement of IP Number Resources via an accepted >>> protocol (such as Border Gateway Protocol) from an AS Number different than >>> that of its upstream provider; >>> >>> To multihome a site with one or more Autonomous Systems; or >>> >>> To use an AS Number to interconnect with other Autonomous Systems.” >>> >>> Replace >>> >>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need. An organization should >>> request an AS Number only when it is already multihomed or will immediately >>> become multihomed.” >>> >>> with >>> >>> “AS Numbers are issued based on current need, as set out in this section 5.” >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ARIN-PPML >>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>). >>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >>> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >>> issues. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> <https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml> >> Please contact [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> if you experience any >> issues. > > _______________________________________________ > ARIN-PPML > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to > the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). > Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: > https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml > Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
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