On 08/08/2022 17:48, John Santos wrote:
I found the policy and original problem statement confusing because
the verb "lease" is ambiguous. It can refer to leasing something FROM
someone else or to leasing something TO someone else.
I read the problem statement as describing a situation where someone
has some amount of IP space allocated to them but has an operational
need for more space. They are leasing additional space from a third
party as a temporary measure, but would like to increase their
allocation to cover their actual needs, but ARIN wasn't letting them
use that leased space as evidence of need. (Maybe this isn't actually
an issue and any organization in such a situation would easily meet
the needs requirements?) But if this is the situation the policy is
attempting to address and it is a real problem, I would support the
proposal.
However, it appears this policy is addressing the other situation, an
organization already has more space than it needs and is leasing out
their extra space to third parties. (The key word here is
"leased-out".) I don't see how allowing them to obtain additional
space in any way qualifies as "needs based". They already have more
than they need, or they wouldn't be leasing it out.
+1 for the same reasons stated. Doesn't make sense to allow this. Opposed.
Regards
Fernando
Opposed.
On 8/8/2022 3:11 PM, Andrew Dul wrote:
ARIN Draft Policy 2021-6 was retitled earlier this year as “Permit
IPv4 Leased Addresses for Purposes of Determining Utilization for
Future Allocations” and the text was also updated based upon feedback
from the community at the Fall 2021 meeting.
https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2021_6/
The draft did not receive sufficient support in the shepherds opinion
to move this policy toward a recommended draft policy. Since this
time the shepherds have been discussing with various members of the
Internet Community and the ARIN AC on a possible path forward for
this draft policy.
One of the ideas was to take a look at the problem statement and
perhaps update and clarify the problem statement in hopes that this
process would provide additional ideas to move the process forward.
The current draft policy problem statement is as follows:
Problem Statement: Current ARIN policy prevents the use of leased-out
addresses as evidence of utilization.
Some contributors have suggested that there are perhaps two or more
issues that are attempting to be solved here.
Organizations would like the ability to lease some of their
address space and not limit the receipt of future IPv4 transfers due
the fact that ARIN’s evaluation of utilization considers leased space
today to be unused.
Organizations who wish to obtain address space are not able to
pledge the address space as collateral in a financial transaction.
The RSA and ARIN policy today limit the ability of IPv4 address
resources to be transferred to another party (financier) without that
party showing need for use on an operational network.
We invite your feedback on these thoughts and ideas to help us rework
the problem statement and future policy language solving these issues.
In particular, do you believe the problem statement needs to be
rewritten to clarify the issue the Internet Community is trying to
solve here?
If so, what problem or problems do you believe that the Internet
Community needs to solve and what problem statement(s) make sense to
restart the conversation around this topic?
Thanks in advance for your feedback,
Andrew
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