On 9 Aug 2022, at 5:10 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In message <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, John Curran <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If you find a Whois entry that reflects resources assigned to a clearly dissolved entity, feel free to report it here: https://account.arin.net/public/whoisinaccuracy/report (Include sufficient detail to facilitate our verification of this status) We will endeavor to look into such situations and correct where possible - considering that (as you did above) we have limited resources that must be prioritized across many activities. My compliments John. I literally cannot recall the last time I encountered such a well-crafted and well-phrased non-committal non-responsive non-answer. From where I am sitting, and based on my substantial knowledge of ARIN's past actions, your answer sounds an awful lot like "No, we're not going to do that. We have better things to do." Actually, my meaning is absolutely clear based on plain language usage – We _will_ endeavor to look into such situations and correct where possible .. Is it true that, as shown here: https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/ there are currently approximately 407 different organizations that are awaiting the availability of IPv4 free pool resources, and that some of these have been waiting in the ARIN Wait List for very nearly seven full months for IPv4 block availability? Indeed. Would you agree or disagree with the clearly evident fact that the organization denoted in the ARIN WHOIS data base via the handle CTC-211 is currently the registrant of the equivalent of an entire /17 IPv4 block, and that this same organization is and has been listed in public records available on the Colorado Secretary of State's web site as having been formally dissolved, by the State, in a formal legal action, nearly four full years ago? Would you agree or disagree that whoever is using those several IPv4 blocks that remain assigned to that organization (CTC-211) after it entered into an RSA contract with ARIN *and* after that organization was legally dissolved by the State of Colorado has no legal right to use the space, and that thus, whoever is doing that now is in fact simply squatting on that /17 worth of valuable IPv4 space? I have not reviewed the available information, as ARIN has a very able Registration Services Team that will handle such with appropriate diligence (if a report is submitted...) Would you agree or disagree that if an entire /17 worth of IPv4 address space were returned to the ARIN free pool, that this could be used, eventually, to satisfy the pending requests of at least thirty two (32) different live and deserving organizations that are currently languishing patiently on the ARIN wait list? That’s a logical conclusion in light of the maximum approved prefix sizes for issuance under the present waiting list policy. And finally, could you please explain, John, how your reluctance to reclaim those valuable IPv4 assets from dissolved and now non-existant corporate entities comports with ARIN's basic mission to be good shepherds of ARIN's finite and limited resources? Because I'm not seeing it. There’s no reluctance on ARIN’s part to researching any reports submitted and taking appropriate action - including “reclaim(ing) those valuable IPv4 assets from dissolved and now non-existant corporate entities” (At the present time, I only see reluctance on your part to reporting such entities to ARIN.) It is clear from your prior answer, quoted above, that it is your view is that reclaiming scarce assets from dead and defunct corporate entities so that ARIN can redistribute them to live and deserving organizations is, and properly should be "low priority" for ARIN staff, like as if you all had something better or more pressing to do. ARIN has not been directed by the community in any policy to embark on a general review of all entities in the ARIN database looking for “dead and defunct corporate entities” - so if this is what you are suggesting, then you are correct - such a task would be very low priority indeed. If you are referring to researching those entities reported to ARIN and taking appropriate action, then you would be incorrect – ARIN will pursue such reports as they are received. Please explain this to me then. What job is higher priority for you and for the ARIN staff than actively managing the scarce resources that have been entrusted to your care in a way so as to insure that worthy organizations can obtain those resources in preference to illegal squatters? Are you and the entire ARIN staff all just too busy making reservations for your upcoming all-expense-paid trips to Hollywood, California for the ARIN 50 meeting in October to allow you folks time to intelligently administer the number resources that have been assigned to ARIN by IANA? I confess I'm confused. How can you justify *not* immediately reclaiming these resources John? How can you justify that decision? (And it *is* a decision, even if the decision is to do nothing.) How can you justify this decision to the community, to the deserving organizations on the Wait List, or even to yourself? “Immediately reclaiming”? ARIN doesn’t immediately do _anything_, because the duty to which you refer includes protecting those who may hold rights to particular number resources in the registry despite having very limited or even no contact with ARIN… This means acting with appropriate diligence and care in the administration of the registry, and carefully reviewing any reports received. I do understand that you consider the particular example cited to be perfectly obviously such that it warrants immediate action, but as seen on this mailing list in your prior missives, such claims can be mistaken. <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/2022-July/069758.html> Submit a report of those “dead and defunct corporate entities” that you’d like reviewed (or don’t, as you prefer) – the power lies within your hands to have these addressed. Thanks! /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers
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