According to ARIN policy, the maximum allocation size an organization can get is a /22 from the waitlist. Considering also that an organization can only have 1 waitlist request at a time and how long it takes to get an allocation on that waitlist, I don't see a lot of incentive for a for-profit entity to do this, especially over and over.
I believe the waitlist parameters inhibit organizations do this for a money making scheme. Also, since the IP market already exists, what if an organization who gets an allocation from the waitlist, changes its priorities after a few months and decides to lease that space to another org? They cannot by policy 4.1.8 transfer that space to another organization for 60 months, unless they went through 8.2 rules which are about re-organizing/merging. Enacting a policy explicitly denying leasing after a waitlist fulfillment would be tying the hands of that organization and thus no-one benefits here. I do not see a reason to add policy around leasing those IP addresses at this time. Dustin Moses Network Engineer II o: 208-762-8065 d: (208) 758-0489 w: intermaxnetworks.com a: 7400 N Mineral Drive Suite 300, Coeur d'Alene, ID 83815 -----Original Message----- From: ARIN-PPML <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 5, 2023 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 215, Issue 2 Send ARIN-PPML mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ARIN-PPML digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question (WOOD Alison * DAS) 2. Re: Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question (Michael B. Williams) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 15:54:17 +0000 From: WOOD Alison * DAS <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question Message-ID: <sa1pr09mb8318e80f3232e2e60616c26cc7...@sa1pr09mb8318.namprd09.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Good morning PPML! I would like community feedback on the leasing of ip space that is obtained from the waitlist. Please let me know what you think and if a policy proposal would be warranted. Thank you! -Alison -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20230505/047ba92e/attachment-0001.htm> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 5 May 2023 11:58:03 -0400 From: "Michael B. Williams" <[email protected]> To: "WOOD Alison * DAS" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Experience Report Working Group Leasing Question Message-ID: <CAGj=18hc0yg1erezm7zhrtw945itogqxikprpjutekxg1by...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Are you asking if an entity were to obtain IP space from the waitlist, should they be permitted to lease it to someone else? My answer is a resounding no. That defeats the whole purpose of the waitlist. Entities should not be encouraged to hoard IP space because ARIN will subsidise the cost, allowing a for-profit entity to make money from obtaining IP space. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20230505/193a607e/attachment-0001.htm> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5272 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: <https://lists.arin.net/pipermail/arin-ppml/attachments/20230505/193a607e/attachment-0001.p7s> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ ARIN-PPML mailing list [email protected] https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml ------------------------------ End of ARIN-PPML Digest, Vol 215, Issue 2 *****************************************
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