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Today's Topics:
1. Any notification needed when changing advertising ASN? (David H)
2. Re: Any notification needed when changing advertising ASN?
(David Huberman)
3. Re: Any notification needed when changing advertising ASN?
(Jimmy Hess)
4. Determine unvalidated POC via RWS? (Chris Spears)
5. Re: Determine unvalidated POC via RWS? (Andy Newton)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:59:56 -0500
From: David H <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-tech-discuss] Any notification needed when changing
advertising ASN?
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Hi all, couldn't find this using the search tool; I was wondering if there
is any documentation requirement when changing the ASN that advertises a
given allocation?
In our portal it just lists AS numbers and ip networks as separate items
but I don't see where there's any association between a given allocation
and a given ASN. I know when we used to apply for addresses via the email
template it asked for the ASN and we'd use the one that would be
advertising the new block but we've got disparate networks with separate
ASN's and want to transition services/customers/ips from one to the other
once everything is ready.
Thanks!
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:25:49 +0000
From: David Huberman <[email protected]>
To: David H <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Any notification needed when changing
advertising ASN?
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Hello David,
There is no need to notify the Registry when changing the origin_as of a
given prefix. The change you're describing happens solely in the routing
equipment you operate and the equipment of your BGP peers.
ARIN's Whois does include origin_as information on an optional basis. This
information is not operational in nature, but rather, is offered for use
by the research community. If you look at your registration and see
out-of-date origin_as information, it's probably best to insert updates as
time allows.
Regards,
David
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David R Huberman
Principal Technical Analyst, ARIN
703-227-9866
On 10/24/12 2:59 PM, "David H" <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all, couldn't find this using the search tool; I was wondering if there
is any documentation requirement when changing the ASN that advertises a
given allocation?
In our portal it just lists AS numbers and ip networks as separate items
but I don't see where there's any association between a given allocation
and a given ASN. I know when we used to apply for addresses via the email
template it asked for the ASN and we'd
use the one that would be advertising the new block but we've got
disparate networks with separate ASN's and want to transition
services/customers/ips from one to the other once everything is ready.
Thanks!
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:49:15 -0500
From: Jimmy Hess <[email protected]>
To: David H <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Any notification needed when changing
advertising ASN?
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On 10/24/12, David H <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all, couldn't find this using the search tool; I was wondering if there
> is any documentation requirement when changing the ASN that advertises a
> given allocation?
Not a _requirement_. If you have chosen to enter an Origin AS for
the network; it would be best practice to either update the data to
be correct, or remove data that is no longer accurate, from the
network. Keeping inaccurate data might result in confusion or
other unexpected negative results in the future.
It would be more important, to update/ensure any IRR records for the
new AS are accurate with the registries such as RADB; especially,
since some transit providers may use the IRR data in an automated
manner to construct certain filters.
Again, not absolutely mandatory.
--
-JH
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 22:44:33 -0500
From: Chris Spears <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [arin-tech-discuss] Determine unvalidated POC via RWS?
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Is there a way to determine an unvalidated POC record via the RWS? While it
appears nice and clear on the ARIN website (when logged in, for resources you
control), it's not possible to glean elsewhere. I'm curious, as I'd like to
help a few folks clean house. Is this possible with the way the RWS is
implemented now (ie, some knob I'm not seeing)?
Thanks,
Chris
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:27:42 +0000
From: Andy Newton <[email protected]>
To: Chris Spears <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Determine unvalidated POC via RWS?
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On 10/24/12 8:44 PM, "Chris Spears" <[email protected]> wrote:
>Is there a way to determine an unvalidated POC record via the RWS? While
>it appears nice and clear on the ARIN website (when logged in, for
>resources you control), it's not possible to glean elsewhere. I'm
>curious, as I'd like to help a few folks clean house. Is this possible
>with the way the RWS is implemented now (ie, some knob I'm not seeing)?
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
Hi Chris,
Unfortunately neither the Whois port 43 service nor the Whois-RWS service
indicate if a POC has been marked valid or not. This would require an
enhancement to the Whois-RWS service. You can submit a request for this
enhancement via the ACSP submission form:
https://www.arin.net/app/suggestion/
And though this is not exactly what you are seeking, ARIN does generate a
report of resources without valid POCs. You can download that report under
the "Download & Services" section via ARIN Online.
I hope this is helpful information.
Andy Newton
Chief Engineer,
ARIN
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