Hi Jon, and All,
This isn't what he is asking. He is asking:
"...We want to use geo-location to ensure
> our customers are routed locally to regional services like google etc
> rather than routed to the US....."
He cannot change SWIPs for his customers IP addresses.
Clinton,
You can PURCHASE Ipaddress geolocation services from a geolocation
provider like Ip2location, MaxMind, Tamo Soft and IPligence. GM
has deep pockets so this should not be a concern... ;-)
These providers maintain an extensive database of physical locations
of where IP addresses are actually in use, rather than the
sometimes-lying SWIP records...
They are global so are not tied to a specific registry. They
provide APIs so your websites can look at the IP address of an
incoming web request to see where it actually comes from.
They use all kinds of tricks to update their maps, some legal, some
less so. There are people who have attempted to fudge SWIP data
to hide where they are actually located who have discovered to
their dismay that the commercial geolocation providers know all
about where they actually are! ;-)
As you might imagine for obvious reasons the banking industry is
highly interested in where specific IP addresses are located!! They
pay these providers quite well to suss that information out!!!
Good luck!
Ted
On 6/15/2015 7:24 AM, Jon Worley wrote:
Hello Clinton,
ARIN doesn’t provide any geolocation services. We maintain registration
data for resources registered in ARIN’s database, but that information
reflects who the resources are registered to (e.g. GM, which is
headquartered in Detroit), not where the resources are being used. There
are some things you may be able to do through ARIN that will assist in
geolocation, but we can’t guarantee they’ll accomplish what you’re seeking.
One option is to publish reassignment information for 198.208.27.0/24
with the local street address at which the subnet is used.
198.208.27.0/24 is currently within a direct assignment. Direct
assignments are issued to end users like GM; since end users aren't
assigning IP addresses to customers, they can’t reassign within their
blocks. You could request that we change the network type to a direct
allocation, which is what ISPs get. Reassignments are allowed within
direct allocations since ISPs need to subdelegate space to customers. To
request that the network be changed to a direct allocation, one of the
registered points of contact for the block can send in an Ask ARIN
request via our web site. We’ll then let you know whether it’s possible
and if so, what the implications would be (specifically, since ISPs are
charged under a different fee schedule than end users, it could raise or
lower your annual fees).
Another option would be to publish information in a routing registry -
either ARIN’s or one of the others listed at the URL below:
http://irr.net/docs/list.html
Routing registries allow you to publish information about how your
resources are being used. Some of the objects allow you to specify a
country code, which may be of assistance in conveying where the
resources are being used. You can find some basic information about
publishing routing information for ARIN-registered resources in RIPE’s
routing registry at the URL below:
https://labs.ripe.net/Members/denis/using-the-ripe-database-as-an-internet-routing-registry
A third option for the future would be to transfer the registration of
the GM resources used outside the ARIN region to the appropriate
regional Internet registry (RIR). At this point inter-RIR transfers are
allowed only between ARIN and APNIC, but it’s expected that inter-RIR
transfers will be possible between ARIN and RIPE in the future. If/when
that happens, GM would have the option to request that its resources
used in the RIPE region be transferred to RIPE, which may aid you in
geolocation by registering the resources with street addresses at which
they’re being used. Note that this is more of a permanent solution; if
you expect to frequently change the location at which resources are
used, it might not be a good fit.
You also have the option to contact sites and/or geolocation data
providers directly to request they adjust their geolocation for your IP
addresses. Most large content providers have some sort of capability to
report geolocation errors, although it may take some take (e.g. a month
or more) to get them corrected. You could also contact geolocation data
providers directly to see whether they can adjust geolocation data for
your range. We don’t have a list of those providers, but you should be
able to find them with a few web searches.
Finally, if you need any further assistance, you might find it more
helpful to post to a network operators forum, e.g. the NANOG mailing list:
http://nanog.org/list
Other network operators have likely run into the same problems and may
be able to offer you more specific information as to how to correct the
problem.
If you have any further questions, comments, or concerns please respond
to this message or contact me directly.
Regards,
Jon Worley
Principal Technical Analyst
ARIN Registration Services
https://www.arin.net/
[email protected]
703.227.0660
From: Clinton E Slowey <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, June 12, 2015 at 10:57 AM
To: "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [arin-tech-discuss] Geo Location
Hi Arin-Tech
I am trying to find out the process to get regional IP address space
registered correctly for GEO location for our regional DMZ’s across the
globe within GM . Can you tell me what is the process to get this done ?
For example we have a DMZ in Germany that’s is advertising 198.208.27.x
/24 network but when I look up the location its registered as the
supernet /16 based in Detroit . We want to use geo-location to ensure
our customers are routed locally to regional services like google etc
rather than routed to the US..
IP details below
http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-198-208-0-0-1/pft
Thanks ,
Clinton
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