This is helpful.  Thank you for the explanation.

On 6/24/2024 11:08 AM, Brad Gorman wrote:
Hello Andrew,

Thanks for your question.


   *   Only holders of resources received directly from ARIN are able to create 
ROAs for those resources.
   *   Organizations who are recipients of reallocated or detailed 
reassignments can create IRR objects, not RPKI ROAs for those resources.
   *   Organizations who are recipients of simple reassignments may not user 
IRR or RPKI services.

Best regards,

Brad Gorman
Sr Product Owner, Routing Security
ARIN

From: arin-tech-discuss <[email protected]> on behalf of Andrew 
Gallo <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, June 24, 2024 at 10:52
To: David Farmer <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [arin-tech-discuss] Who can generate ROAs when a holder reassigns 
or reallocations address space?
I like that idea.  I was thinking along the same lines.

When a prefix is delegated, associate a Routing POC with the prefix
which would be allowed to generate ROAs and IRR objects. If no
association is made, only the parent can take these actions.

Question- do you think the delegating/parent holder should be allowed to
generate ROAs if there is a downstream Routing POC?

On 6/24/2024 10:08 AM, David Farmer wrote:
I wonder if a tactic to address this issue is expanding the use of the
Router POC. Maybe a Router POC could be created at the resource level or
with a Detailed Reassignment instead of a Router POC at the Organization
Level, providing a fine-grained mechanism to delegate control of ROA and
IRR.

Just a thought.

On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:34 AM Andrew Gallo <[email protected]> wrote:

If a holder of address resources reassigns or reallocates a portion of
that space, who can create an RPKI ROA?  The original holder (parent),
the downstream org that has the delegated portion of the space?

The three options for reassignment/reallocation are
       Simple Reassignment
       Detailed Reassignment
       Reallocation
(definitions below)

Based on my reading, Simple Reassignment allows only the 'parent' (or
delegating) org allowed to create ROAs.  But what about Detailed?  The
downstream org can have POCs and maintain reverse nameserver records.
Can they also generate ROAs or IRR objects?

What about Reallocation?

Thank you.



Simple Reassignment
      Use this option if you will manage abuse and network contacts for
your customer.

Detailed Reassignment
      Use this for a downstream organization that needs to maintain its
own reverse nameservers and/or separate Point of Contact (POC)
information.

Reallocation
      Use this for a downstream organization that needs to maintain its
own reverse nameservers and/or separate Point of Contact (POC)
information and make reassignments of IP addresses to its own customers.

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