Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> writes: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Paul Boddie <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wednesday 16. December 2015 16.28.09 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >>> >>> microcontrollers are actually a very small amount of memory, so if >>> you are writing lots of code, you're doing something badly, badly >>> wrong. it is however a bit of a mind-bender: everything has to be >>> state-driven. it's single-process (no threads, no state-swapping), >>> interrupts and DMA. so everything is done as a huuuuge >>> state-machine... or on polling with sleep loops. >> >> Well, the microcontroller stuff I have a bit more experience with, having >> messed around with a USB controller (MAX3421E) with the Arduino, > > oh great - yeah the STM32F072 is like a grown-up version of the > arduino. none of this bullshit installing 160mb of java runtime, a > toy-for-an-IDE that does nothing more than wrap sdcc and avr-utils > even to the point of modifying simple Makefiles for you. i bought an > OSMC back in 2001, it had the same PICs as the arduino, and *nobody* > arsed about with 250mb of crap to wrap 5mb worth of libraries and > command-line compiler tools! > > rant over.... :)
Pretty much exactly why I helped make sure that the java stuff is optional on Debian -- see the 'arduino-core' and 'arduino-mk' packages: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/arduino-mk Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] HANDS.COM Ltd. |-| http://www.hands.com/ http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ |(| Hugo-Klemm-Strasse 34, 21075 Hamburg, GERMANY
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