Basically, Logitech officially then (and most likely now) don't support keyboards plugged in through hubs and at that time (a couple of years back) discovered strange USB 3 issues where there would be interference caused. (Of course, my USB 3 Mac works ok, but I don't use any Logitech devices (branded or non-branded))
Russell On 25/07/2016, Russell Hyer <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, though I feel I should apologise re the USB 3, since the stuff > you show there lists Logitech, and for a time, I was an outsourced > Logitech support rep :( > > Russell > > > On 25/07/2016, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Your analysis from the other e-mail is very interesting. >> >> thanks. more a reminder to myself of the urgency. i'm hearing that >> there are countries *actively considering* taking their currency off >> of the hyper-inflated U.S. dollar. if china does that and we don't >> have modular computers (and lighter, smarter-designed cars) so that >> china can ship *small* parts overseas and the rest is manufactured >> locally, we're all royally screwed. >> >> >>> I was only trying to analyse why people in or close to FOSS and libre >>> hardware communities didn't embrace this campaign more enthusiastically. >> >> i've not been in regular communication with them, i think that's the >> main thing. i've kept in touch with dr stallman but he's >> eennnoorrrmously busy. through my sponsor chris from thinkpenguin we >> only began RYF discussions about 3 months before i came over to the >> U.S. - just as the >> >> really what we need[ed] was[is] someone[s] to *specifically* handle >> awareness and communications, nothing else. >> >>> As the e-mail says towards the end: >>> >>> The question is "How do we gather enough passionate recruits to get >>> this revolution going?" but that question is hard to fit into the >>> realities of a marketing campaign for a couple of products. >> >> honestly that's the challenge that i invite everyone - as a community >> - to stand up and solve. i can only provide the *opportunity* for >> people to go "omg i've been complaining about how hardware >> manufacturers have not been delivering, there's someone actually >> standing up and saying they'll *MAKE* hardware... why don't i do >> something instead of complaining, and wasting my time >> reverse-engineering older crapware machines that have already got >> end-of-life components in them, we have better things to do, let's get >> to it!!" >> >>> But in the end, for the campaign to be successful, it also needs to >>> provide products that people want to pledge for (if nothing else, to >>> meet the minimum quantity to fabricate the chips that Luke keeps >>> mentioning), so everybody needs some kind of hook to engage with the >>> project. It also serves to gauge interest in future products, once the >>> campaign ends. >> >> absolutely, >> >>> >>> In your case, you would be thrilled to pledge for the hardware that you >>> mention. You say that it would have to be dirty cheap, >> >> no i never said that - i said "the modular approach saves people >> money". totally different. >> >>> but many people >>> are investing significant amounts of money to get the Neo900 rolling, >> >> how's the libre firmware working out for them? >> >>> which probably is the closest product in the works resembling what you >>> describe. >> >> mmmm... it's a highly specialist single-board product with a >> soldered-down SoC onto the same PCB as the modem and the WIFI module. >> we learned already from openmoko that this is an extremely risky >> strategy. people who remember it, the openmoko took so long that the >> WIFI module went end-of-life *DURING* the development... that >> effectively killed the project because they could not afford yet >> another round of design and PCB testing. >> >> now, please let's be absolutely clear: the above paragraph is >> ***NOT*** a criticism of the neo900 team's efforts. it's just that i >> see the various failures and successes of the past 10+ years, and go >> "hmmm if we did X and avoided Y by doing Z instead, then we end up >> with a higher chance of success". >> >> ... sooo... there is *NO WIFI* on-board any of the PCBs: it's done as >> USB-WIFI. there is *NO 3G* on board any of the PCBs: i expect people >> to get their own USB-3G modem. or 2G. or 4G. or LTE. or 5G. >> >> problem goes away. >> >> >>> In my case, I would be interested in a possible range of products, but >>> none of the current meet the expectations in one way or another: >> >> well you can always pledge for a computer card, then sell it on ebay >> or contact someone on the mailing list, i'm sure someone will take it >> off your hands >> >>> - The only one laptop that I owned with <1000p of vertical resolution I >>> hated with passion (partly because of the resolution and partly >>> because of the glossy screen). >> >> the EOMA68-A20 has an HDMI port, 1920x1080 works perfectly, and you >> can always get a DisplayLink USB-DVI/HDMI adapter >> >>> So I think that buying a laptop from the campaign with that screen >>> resolution would be a mistake in my case. Personally I also need >>> something much more powerful than the A20 for tasks that I do daily on >>> the computer (both in terms of CPU and memory). >> >> >>> - Close family are still well served by the options already available >>> around the home, e.g. Thinkpads a decade old (still from IBM). >> >> yeahyeah - then this would be not such a bad option for them >> >>> - I will need one or two mini-servers at home in 1~2 months. I have >>> several small devices around the house with different architectures, >>> some not even purchased but given to me for some reason or another, >>> and that I have not tried yet after 1 year sitting in a bookcase; as >>> well as older x86 systems that still fit the bill and work fine. >> >> :) >> >>> So I could give some use to EOMA cards if I pledge for them (still >>> deciding), but in that case I would keep the other hardware unused >>> (not eco-friendly, and a bit of a waste of money). And I would need >>> them now-ish, waiting until next spring is not an option for that >>> small personal project. >>> >>> >>> I think that many people wanting to support the project would have >>> similar conflicts and are not decided about what to do. >> >> yeahh it's all about timing. >> >>> It's a pity that RFY certification can only start after the campaign is >>> finished. With lots of visibility, at least it would mean that there's >>> a bigger set of people in the intersection "I want to support this >>> project", "I need this hardware/products in a few months" and "I can pay >>> them now". >>> >>> >>> Meanwhile, pledges keep increasing :-) >> >> i know... :) i keep doing updates, it keeps people interested. >> >> l. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] >> http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook >> Send large attachments to [email protected] > _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to [email protected]
