2017-01-13 9:11 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>:

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> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:55 AM, mike.v...@gmail.com
> <mike.v...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2017-01-13 4:56 GMT+01:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net>:
> >>
> >> ---
> >> crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Wolfgang Romey <h...@wolfgangromey.de>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I think my FairPhone 2, which I own for a month, is some kind of a
> >> > modular
> >> > smartphone.
> >>
> >>  it's not: they lied.
> >
> >
> > If they're intentions were honest it's not a lie. It's just being naive.
>
>  no, it's called lying.  or, at best, deceptive marketing.
>
> > But all most parts are, user, replaceable. Which indeed does not make it
> > modular, but serviceable.
>
>  correct.
>
>  if it was a truly modular design, the parts would snap or slide-lock
> apart in some fashion, there would be a hardware and software standard
> published, and the parts would be re-useble in future designs and they
> would have PUBLISHED SOME INDICATION OF THEIR EXISTENCE already.
>
>  so it's total horseshit and they know it.  they're not stupid: they
> had enough people on their forums talk about dave hakkan's phonebloks
> concept for them to have heard the word "modular" enough times.
>
>
> > The biggest issue is that they've tied the modem and SIM directly to the
> > rest of the system. It's a cheap decision. Which most manufactures have
> done
> > unfortunately. [1]
>
>  i told them that it's easy to get hold of a cheap 3G modem containing
> a qualcomm MSM chipset.  they ceased communication shortly afterwards.
>

You're being to brief here. I don't understand.

They are using a Qualcomm MSM (Snapdragon 801) chip for their "Fairphone
2".

Which in my opnion is both good and bad.
Good:
- Open source kernels without NDA
- Opensource display drivers: Freedreno
Bad:
- Modem and SIM are remote programmable and have direct, unswitched,
uncontrolled access to power and RAM. So very bad for your privacy.
- Little effort in up-streaming their modifications to the Linux Kernel
- No free unbricking software.

How bad for your privacy? One rogue cell transceiver (ca. 800$) and
complete control over your phone forever.

But that is true for almost all phones.


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