On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 12:39:46 +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok, so, apologies for not responding for 2 days: the latest cold, which > is back again a fourth time in as many weeks, is leaving me exhausted. > again. > > tzafrir: i've mentioned this a number of times, and am happy to mention > it again, as you appear to have missed it. the key difference is > massive scope-creep. look at how the NSA developed libselinux1 and > associated infrastructure. they got a university involved to develop > the FLASK model. they set out a design strategy, they set out what they > were going to do, then they did it. whilst almost everything else that > the NSA does may be questionable, steven smalley is clearly a smart guy > and knows what he's doing. > > by contrast the development of systemd has become a critical > single-point of failure for a massive number of distros, where its > developers are clearly and pathologically not taking responsibility for > the consequences of their *technically-driven* decisions, and are > continuing to develop their software without wider consultation. > > so, i read what everyone wrote: i think the simplest thing to do is to > just go with the image that i have been working with and testing over > the past two years. it's using xfce4 (gnome is too heavy). i know it > works, and i simply don't have the time - or importantly the energy - to > create a new image, *especially* based on people's comments and > reactions that they'd be deeply unhappy with it not being a "stock > image", even if all i did was make it boot sysvinit instead by default. > those comments *alone* immediately terminate all and any possibility > that i can provide debian/jessie in a 100% ethical way.
Do the same you did with Debian, only use Devuan aand the Devuan installer. It will likely just work, and you won;t need to expunge systemd. Sell it as a Devuan system. You can still make a stock Debian available if your customers demand it. But by providing Devuan you won't be pushing systemd on those that don't want it. Your conscience can be somewhat clearer. > > on receipt of the cards, anybody who wants to will be free and entirely > at liberty to do "apt-get dist-upgrade" That's one of the ways of installing Devuan for those that don;t want to set up fro scratch. Start with a running Debian system, Jessie or the one before that. Replace the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list by lines referring to Devuan's repository. DO an update, then a dist-upgrade. -- hendrik _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to arm-netb...@files.phcomp.co.uk
