On 04/02/2017 05:51 PM, zap wrote: > > On 04/02/2017 04:55 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Normand Chamberland <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> 2017-03-31 5:47 GMT-04:00 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]>: >>>> normand, can you please not use non-free proprietary git services for >>>> this project, it sends completely the wrong message. please delete >>>> that github repository immediately, it brings the EOMA68 project's >>>> reputation into disrepute and that's completely unacceptable. >>> FYI My repo had a README file for which content specifically said >>> >>>> This repository hosts my personal design files for the EOMA68 project. >>>> This is not the official project repository. >>> I fail to see how they could bring "disrepute" to it.since these files were >>> clearly *PERSONAL* and *NON-ASSOCIATED TO THE OFFICIAL PROJECT*. >> norman, i haven't checked if you're still subscribed to the list, but >> if you'd not published that link to the list, and had only discussed >> it in private email directly with other people, i would not have known >> and, on a random-chance discovery six to twelve months from now would >> probably have grumbled a bit, privately, but would have gone, >> "rhhm.... ok nothing to stress about, no impact on the reputation of >> the project, time to move along switfly". >> >> fact is: we have something like 50% of the 2,500 backers supporting >> this project because they believe in libre ethics, and i am also >> answerable to the FSF for the RYF Certification (josh gay explained it >> to me that RYF Certification effectively means placing responsibility >> for the FSF's reputation into the hands of other people, which is not >> something they do lightly). >> >> in the next update i was going to say, "here you can see where the >> files are being developed, normand has been kindly assisting, you can >> help him out as well if you like, by joining the list, he's operating >> from a libre-hosted repository, thus demonstrating a continued >> committment to the principles that you backed the project for with >> your money". >> >> now, if any one of those libre backers had noticed it was a github >> repository, far from wishing to actively pitch in they would instead >> be sending me (or worse PUBLICLY writing) strongly-worded enquiries >> asking, in effect, "what the FUCK do you think you're playing at, >> lkcl?? i thought this was an entirely libre-based project, and here >> you are advocating the use of github which has an F on the GNU >> project's hosting watchlist?? i gave you my money because i believed >> in you, now you've completely destroyed my trust in you and that can >> never be restored or regained" >> >> this is the sort of thing i'm up against. it has fuck-all to do with >> "zeal". i *made a promise* to people, they believe in me, and i >> simply cannot let them down else absolutely nobody will trust me ever >> again. the internet is *forever*. they'll see the (hypothetical) >> conversation in internet archives - forever - and the entirety of the >> last 6 years of work will have been for nothing. >> >> so please, people, for goodness sake: if you need to host any files >> please don't use github or any cloud services: it's me (and the >> project) that get into deep shit, not you. i've got full control over >> a server which i've been running for 10 years, it has 4 >> separately-allocated static IP addresses, and i have two friends who >> also run servers, both of whom make their living from software libre >> support. we *really* don't need to use proprietary non-free services. >> if you'd like to host files or repositories send me an ssh key and i >> can sort something out. >> >> thanks for understanding.
The below still applies but, > I agree with your view point, github is not trustworthy. heck, gitlab > which is a few steps better is still crap. > > I am not sure about gogs though... > > https://gogs.io/ > > I am really though glad you take this sort of thing seriously. We should > all thank you for such zeal towards keeping things "Libre" > > I hope you are successful Luke. And really, if normand sees this post, I > hope he has a better understanding of the consequences of such actions. > > Anyways though, I look forward to when you get the rockchip processor > working to your specifications. > > One last thing though, you said the a20 doesn't support 4.9 kernel... > but what about the rk3288 processor? as far as I can see, the rk3288 from this page does support 4.9... https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort heh. The rest of my message still applies though. >> l. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] >> http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook >> Send large attachments to [email protected] _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to [email protected]
