I would subdivide (b-ii) into:

     (b) (ii) people who are willing to apply creativity to learn how
to program them.
              (1) people who seek out opportunities to apply
creativity to learn how to program.
              (2) people who expect to be given opportunities to apply
creativity to learn how to program.


Also, I forgot to mention: Chris, sleep well my good fellow. Luke,
what are you still doing awake :P

On 4/18/17, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:01 AM, John Luke Gibson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> For many individuals without a creative appealing original
>> introduction into computers, I believe they are deeply concerned about
>> being less individual for starting a road headlong into being a
>> computer savant and consistently running the same path as many others,
>> and rather believe much as you pointed out that their ignorance is a
>> blessing on others,
>
>  i feel that there's a couple of helpful categories here:
>
>  (a) (i) people who help themselves (only) and
>       (ii) people who help others
>
>  (b) (i) people who have been *trained* to *use* computers and
>       (ii) people who are willing to apply creativity to learn how to
>       program them.
>
> i'm *definitely* in category (a-ii b-ii), and am looking for people of
> category (a-ii) to help bring together people from *all* four
> categories.
>
> l.
>
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