On 04/24/2017 04:40 AM, John Luke Gibson wrote: > On 4/24/17, John Luke Gibson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 4/24/17, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> lyberta, do look up eckart tolle's story, it's very very funny (and >>> relevant). ok ok i can't resist telling the tale: he was an academic, >>> in some of the worst (bitchiest) back-stabbing in-fighting for funding >>> and "status" academic environments it's possible to be in, and it was >>> really *really* getting him down. so one day he woke up and said to >>> himself, intending to kill himself, "i can't live with myself". >>> >>> except, the academic in him went, "hang on a minute, what the hell? >>> what the hell is the damn difference between this "I" and this >>> "myself"?? in that stupid sentence! *I* can't live with my "self"?? >>> wtf??" and the sudden and revelationary recognition of the incredible >>> cognitive dissonance between two "things" - two "selfs" - in his mind >>> which he *wasn't even aware were separate" resulted in what's known in >>> the trade as a "kundalini whiteout". >>> >>> when he came to he found he was still sitting on the bed but he could >>> perceive things in a totally new way. i won't go into the rest of the >>> story but he's now one of the western world's best known "spiritual >>> masters", so his books (including audio books) are well worth reading. >>> >> I'm not sure how my feedback on this is valued, but : >> Believe it or not, I'm not a fan of Eckhart not just 'cause I always >> despised the definitive "all knowing" rhetoric used by both Church's >> AND spiritualists, but because I felt Eckhart et-all frequently made >> the habit of making individuals feel better about themselves by >> demeaning and incessantly talking about how worthless and powerless >> so-called "oppressive" forces are, literally as an abstract. Life's >> meaning (in my opinion) is literally based around conflict as an >> abstract (not just violence), so it kinda feels like their >> interpretation of life is a bit pointless if one doesn't make being >> spiritual a part of their identity (since to them conflict with one's >> self seems to be the only conflict that has any meaning, and kinda >> implies if a person views themselves as good human beings just the way >> they are that they are living a life with nothing but pointless >> conflicts). That's just my opinion xP >> > Oops I meant to send that just to Luke, Not the whole list, sorry > everybody for any bit derailing mt comments may be here xD Sorry Too late, I already responded ;P
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