On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 11:22:33PM -0500, Christopher Havel wrote: > Okay. Forgive me, Luke, for inciting what will inevitably be a > stake-burning that will be of such grand proportion as to be visible in > space... > > ...but... > > ...I have to admit that I just don't "get it".
Let us try to stay civil :) > > And not having access to Flash is always an annoyance when it > occurs. Isn't flash already dead? I am quite happy that it gets less and less relevant each day as it appeared to be such a pain in the neck and caused a lot of troubles when switching to Linux years ago. >Even my phone is a Samsung Galaxy S7 - not exactly flying the flag > of happy freedom-ness. > Altough I type this reply from a Libreboot T400 (RYF certified) running Debian stable with only the main repo enabled I also own and use a smartphone and a tablet running android. > ...and that's kind of where I usually draw the line. If a guven application > doesn't 'shoot the cat' -- cause obvious system instability or exhibit > other overtly malicious activity during use -- and it performs the task(s) > it was designed for, it seems to me it ought to be considered just fine, at > least for the most part. How do you know if the source is closed? :) There are many (valid) reasons to reject closed source software ranging from "because I can", "I am just curious", "scientific and research", "security", "bad past experience with closed source", "forced upgrades" and so on. I believe that the FLOSS-model is better but it is not the holy grail either. Apparently FLOSS has bugs, security holes and unexpected problems. Errors are a part of our human existence. The internet is full of discussions, essays, blogposts and free books on this topic so I think there is no need to repeat these sources. In the end you have to make this decision for yourself based on your knowledge and critical evalation of your sources. > Yet, almost every message on this list seems to carry with it the > implication -- if not express statement -- that if a given application > can't be openly audited on a remarkably low level by a random layperson at > a random time and place -- leaving alone the fact that most ordinary > individuals severely lack the knowledge and education required for that > task -- it must therefore be evil and untrustworthy and oh god we can't > have any of that sort of thing around here, shoo shoo... Well, this is a libre centered mailing list and in my opinion a quite friendly one. I have been burned by projects that were "open source" and turned out to require blobs. It can be so hard to find out if certain hardware will require blobs so I find the strict libre approach of eoma68 and this mailing list quite liberating. kind regards Pablo _______________________________________________ arm-netbook mailing list [email protected] http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/arm-netbook Send large attachments to [email protected]
