On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 2:10 AM Carvel Baus <[email protected]> wrote: > > My current interests lie in 4 primary areas: Arm, Rust, Kernel, Apple M1. > Where two or more of these intersect would be very interesting to me. In no > particular order: > > - Fedora on Apple Silicon
That's a long way out, the first of the enablement patches have just been posted for review and that doesn't even have storage to boot to a usable system, it basically just enough to start CPUs and output to a console. From experience of watching other platform bootstraps this is going to be a multi year approach to get to something we can actively support in Fedora. > - Rust on Arm The rust support on arm is pretty good, it's now an upstream Tier 1 platform, and overall it's on equal footing as far as I can tell in Fedora. There's a pretty active rust SIG: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Rust > - Fedora Kernel (C) That's a pretty broad topic. > and down the road: Rust for kernel modules > > Ultimately, I’d like to code - that could be C/C++, Rust, Scala > (JVM)…probably not Python. > > I don’t know if there are any plans for Fedora on Apple Silicon but this > seems like an obvious target if there are. I am open to helping however I can > but writing code is a primary objective. I am certainly a team player so open > to discussing the pressing needs and see where there is a good fit. The answer is two fold, the first is most certainly, the second it when it's ready. While there's a means of using it from an enthusiast PoV it's no where near close to anything we can actively support in Fedora. As described above kernel upstreaming is only just starting to begin, and GPU reverse engineering is starting to make baby steps [1], based on experience from other SoCs, such as Raspberry Pi, and other GPUs such as MALI this is going to be a mult year process to get something in main Fedora that's supportable by the average user with a reasonable experience, I'm sure well before then there will be terrible hacked up versions of Fedora that blitt via a framebuffer for un-accelerated graphics which will be great for people that are developing on them or enjoy terrible user experiences just to say they can do it, but that's unsupportable in main Fedora because it ends up creating a lot of support work for those that support the Fedora Arm initiative. Now Fedora Arm in a VM on an Apple M1 Mac is definitely something that I'd love to support, and while my time to actively hack on it of late has been limited, it's certainly something that I think is achievable in the short term as a step on the route to full bare metal enablement. Peter [1] https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-2.html > Carvel > > On Jan 26, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Peter Robinson <[email protected]> wrote: > > Welcome Carvel, > > Is there anything in particular that interests you or excites you that > you'd like to see improvements where you feel you may be able to > contribute with some guideance? > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:35 PM Carvel Baus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello, > > Just wanted to introduce myself as I am interested in helping with the ARM > effort. I currently have a [personal] Macbook Air M1 and will be issued a MBP > M1 for work [in several weeks] as part of a pilot program. I believe I could > use them to contribute to the Fedora ARM effort. > > I have limited kernel experience, but have built the kernel, applied the > Fedora config, installed a minimalist [hello world] module and my [Intel] > hardware is still working :) > > Early on in my career, I worked on telephony switching systems and IP > telephony protocol stacks (mostly on Sun Sparc systems.) I love to code, pure > and simple and that is where I am most inspired/productive. I have done > C/C++, SmallTalk, Java, Scala, shell scripting, etc., and now pursuing Rust > in my spare time. > > Looking forward to helping... > > PS: I should be on the ARM SIG meeting today. > > Carvel Baus > Principal Software Engineer, Multi-Architecture > [email protected] > IRC: rcbaus > > > _______________________________________________ > arm mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] > > > > Carvel Baus > Principal Software Engineer, Multi-Architecture > [email protected] > W: (404) 842-5047 > C: (305) 396-1250 > _______________________________________________ arm mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]
