This thread has been equally entertaining as informative.  I never would
have thought that an economic discussion would include reference to Freddy
Krueger or Nightmare on Elm St. :-) Personally, I believe the argument about
disaster and happiness is a bit tautological in scope.  "End of Days" could
result in such overwhelming disutility that risk-averse atomistic agents
would tend to defer present consumption, including procreative activities.
Afterall, there will be no need to properly discount the future. QED

Bill Dickens (FL-based) 

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I think the popularity of "Nightmare on Elm Street", etc., 
including with many young women, is fairly relevant, 
and supportive of "stress arousal".

I'd suspect a strong second order effect in women: 
the men are "more than usually" aroused; 
which leads to "more than usual" arousal in the women.  
I'd suspect women who are NOT more than usually 
aroused with such men to be at a doubly severe 
evolutionary disadvantage: a) fewer children overall,
and b) less likely to keep a father around to help
with the kids she does have.  



Tom Grey

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I think this is a good EP explanation  for men, but there is a problem with
it as an explanation for women. I have to admit that I don't know if women
are aroused by stress as well, but from the woman's perspective it would
seem that her offspring would be most likely to succeed if she waited for
the guys to come back and then picked from that bunch. They would presumably
be a more fit sub-sample of the original population and would be more likely
to be around to help provide for the children. - - Bill Dickens


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    With regard to Mr. Dickens' comment regarding whether stress should
cause 
sexual arousal, I am tempted to think that evolutionary psychology can 
certainly explain this phenomenon.  Early societies, according to most
models 
of human development, used the males as hunters and warriors; females were 
gatherers.  With this division of labor, males certainly incurred the more 
perilous part of the community's job.  Before an important hunt or major 
battle, it is manifestly in the male's evolutionary favor to become sexually

aroused; after all, this may be his genome's last chance to reproduce
itself! 
 Even if he dies in battle, his sex partners -- still safely at home -- will

be able to bear his young. 

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