Well I'd respond by saying that the cause of ulcers is NOT a paradigm
shift... the GERM THEORY 
OF DISEASE is a paradigm shift.  The move from Newtonian Phsyics to
Einsteinian Physics is a paradigm shift... The cause of ulcers is what Kuhn
would call "normal" science.  We assume that something, not bad air or or
evil spirits cause ulcers.  The ulcer debate is WITHIN an accepted paradigm.
Most science is that sort of science.  
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Subject: Paradigm shifts


Pinczewski-Lee, Joe (LRC) writes:
> There has been soomething of a misunderstanding regarding paradigm shift,
> the paradigm "shifts" not whent he old practioners ae all dead, that CAN
> happen, but when an influential majority/plurality accepts the new
paradigm.
> The old paradigm still exists, in some cases they old paradigm's
practioners
> are simply "exiled" from science.  Their worldview is simply NOT accepted
as
> science.  So, change need not occur at a glacial pace.

Note, one example I used was Priestley.  He was eventually won over to 
Lavoisier's oxygen hypothesis.  He was not exiled or even self-exiled from 
the community of chemists.  My point was that key players often do change to

the new paradigm -- i.e., that the whole model of some people holding on 
tooth and claw to outmoded ideas is an overgeneralization and might not be 
supported by a thorough study. 

Even if I mean what Joe states above, this kind of disproves the model that 
theory change happens only in neophytes.  In any field, most of the people 
who change their views are people who are already established in that field.

Granted, there are cases where an outsider comes and does the changes.  The 
H. pylori is one such instance, but it kind of proves my point.  The 
researchers were not gasterenterologists, but they managed to persuades, 
according to Thagard's book, over 90% of gasterenterologists that bacterial 
infection is a major cause of ulcers. 

This doesn't seem to fit the Joe's model.  The less than 10% who disagree 
with the H. pylori hypothesis are probably not marginalized or exiled 
outside of modern medicine.  The fact, however, that 90% accept the case 
seems to show the willingness of experts to change their opinions.  Since 
this happened in less than 20 years, I doubt this is because the old timers 
clung to the old view -- ulcers are caused by stomach acid alone and the 
best treatment is antiacids -- while only newcomers embraced the new view --

H. pylori causes many ulcers and the best treatment for these are 
antibiotics. 

This doesn't mean that paradigm shifts don't happen in the way Joe means.  I

just think they are a lot less numerous and that the model is overused, 
especially to explain [away] changes in complex fields.  It's easy to 
overlook the details in many cases, such as the change from the phlogiston 
to oxygen hypotheses and the current models of the stomach ulcers. 

Cheers! 

Daniel Ust
http://uweb.superlink.net/neptune/

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