Bryan wrote:
Right, but if you want to reduce the SD of your return, you've got to
square those numbers - you need 100 stocks to get the SD down by 90%.
And isn't that the measure of risk most people vaguely have in mind?
>>>Well what I suppose we should be using isn't either the SD or the Var, but the % of
>the maximum increase in utility that is possible with increasing diversification.
>Playing around with a few examples it looked to me that the gain in utility was
>inversely proportional to the decline in variance - - not the SD. However, more
>surprising than that was the incredibly small utility gain that one obtains by
>reducing the standard deviation of your income from say 20% of the mean to 10% of the
>mean. In all the examples I worked out a .1 or .2% increase in the rate of return
>completely dominated that.
In any case, I'd like to thank Bill for the only useful investment
information I've learned since the JEL piece on international
diversification.
>>>Your welcome. Just note that this was never intended as investment advice, your
>milage may vary, not doing exactly what someone else told you to do will certainly
>cost you your life fortune and leave you broke and starving, its not my fault, repeat
>PLEASE DON'T SUE ME!
So Bill, if you had to guess, roughly what expected return reduction
would you get from (a) standard stock-picking and active trading, (b)
managed mutual funds, (c) index funds, and (d) buy and hold with
discount brokers? I would still guess that (c) closes 90% of the
distance between (a) and (d), but I'd like to hear your guesstimate.
>>>Depends on the size of your portfolio. If its $2,000 you might very well be better
>off with the mutual fund. With a million dollars or more I expect that 90% is almost
>exactly right (figure zero percentage costs vs. annual costs of .5% of your current
>net worth in present value terms for 20 years). I use the .5% figure rather than the
>.17% or .2% figures for the reasons I mentioned in a previous post plus one more I've
>thought of since then. If you buy individual stocks you are likely to have some
>losers. You can sell those to take capital losses that you can use to reduce your tax
>liability for your unavoidable investment income (dividends and interest on fixed
>income assets). Can't do that if you diversify in a mutual fund. - - Bill
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