Hi Karthik,
How can I compare Mandu
with Hindolam. It is like comparing organes with
apples. I told SPB said both Anjali Anjali and
Kadhale en Kadhale are in Mandu Period.
OK I give up.. as there is no point in arguing
with people who don't want to accept things. Thaan
pudiccha muyalukku mooNe kaal na... what can I do...?
You have been typing a lot in vein.. So please
take reset and let the other discussion proceed as the
forum is not only for YOU and ME.
Bye
Pavana Kumar C.M
--- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Probably my final mail on this usbject as many here
> have personally asked me
> not to respond to you and belittle the purpose of
> the forum. SInce you have
> brought in one more allegation , for which I
> believe, I have given a
> convincing reply some 2 years before when the same
> issue croped in.
>
> So finally, let me answer your lines
>
> >>>If you are adamant and dont' want to agree so be
> it.
> Me...Adamant?!!..Come on the entire 4499 people in
> the group knew who is
> adamant in this issue..Okay..leave it...your ego is
> very much hurt....lets
> come to the point.
>
> And for your kind information SPB after singing
> > the "Kadhale en Kadhale..." song from Duet told
> that
> > this song is composed in Raga Mandu and the
> stength of
> > Rahman lies in the usage of this Raga has he has
> used
> > the same raga even in "Anjali Anjali..."
>
> This clearly proves that you aren;'t a ARR fan and
> you seldom listen to ARR
> song.....The part what SPB mentions comes as a
> interlude in that song..Anjali..Anjali song comes as
> an
> interludes...because, prabhu thru his sax wanted to
> convey Meenakshi
> Seshadri that it is he who actually composed that
> song, and not his brother
> Ramesh Arvind...It is ARR's genius (real Genius in
> the sense) that brought
> in a song composed majorly in Bouli and Behak into
> an other song for which I
> am sorry I do not know the raaga at this point of
> time (I am not a Carnatic
> Guru like you...edho kelvi Gnyanam thaan)...Okay
> going by your own
> assertion, lets consider that it is in Mandu...then
> tell me how mandu and
> Hindolam is related to one another?...
>
> >>>Anyways what do you say for "Roja Roja..." song
> > from Kadhalar Dinam getting inspired from MSV
> > composition of Varumai Niram Sivappu. Is that
> also
> > not a copy.
>
> Now can you do me a favour..honestly...replace the
> lyric of roja..Roja song
> with that "sippi irukkudhu " lyrics and sing Roja
> Roja song...Atleast try
> for 4 lines...mudiyudhaanu paappom..
>
> Guru, The tune that you have mentioned as copied
> comes only at the last two
> lines of the said MSV song...It is the place where
> Kamal and Sridevi join
> hands and walk thru the garden at the end of the
> song....Roja..Roja starts
> exactly there with that two line in a Higher octave
> and flies into a
> completely different plane...that is why I said
> replace the lyrics and try
> to sing....Its more like a tribute to MSVs
> song...The only thing is Roja
> Roja starts from where Sippi Irukkudhu ends...If you
> remember there was
> aprogram in Vijay TV called Naiyaandi Darbar in
> which the lunatic Yuhi Sethu
> asked the same question to Unni Krishnan and Unni
> gave an answer some thing
> similar to this...My analogy is based on that...Unni
> Krishnan is also a
> singer/carnatic musician/ and the singer of this
> song...
>
> Pavana, before throwing allegation, first make sure
> that you have
> substantial proof in hand that will be hard to
> refute by others...Your
> allegations are quite old and have been dumped into
> ditch hundreds of time
> by hundreds of members here. Read it carefully,
> THERE HAS NOT BEEN EVEN ONE
> SINGLE INSTANCE WHERE A WHOLE SONG IS COPIED OR
> IMPROVISED....what ARR has
> done so far is only adapt his creativity with the
> modern way of film
> composing there days...
>
> I initially thought conversing with you will yield
> some fruits here for
> others to cherish...I learnt the lesson again that I
> cannot wake a person
> pretending to be asleep....Better continue your
> act....the thing is you lost
> it in the eyes of ARR group members....
>
> Bye
> Karthik
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pavana Kumar CM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [arr] Sangamam IS IT.... - Blatant Copy
> of Sowkkiyama song!!!
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Karthik,
> >
> > If you are adamant and dont' want to agree so
> be
> > it.
> >
> > Anyways what do you say for "Roja Roja..."
> song
> > from Kadhalar Dinam getting inspired from MSV
> > composition of Varumai Niram Sivappu. Is that
> also
> > not a copy.
> >
> > And for your kind information SPB after
> singing
> > the "Kadhale en Kadhale..." song from Duet told
> that
> > this song is composed in Raga Mandu and the
> stength of
> > Rahman lies in the usage of this Raga has he has
> used
> > the same raga even in "Anjali Anjali..."
> >
> >
> > Pavana Kumar C.M
> >
> > --- Karthik S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >>>has shades of Mandu
> > > From mandu , you have come to the shades of
> Mandu...
> > >
> > > >>>Do you need more authoritative statement on
> this.
> > > Yes, because, under what context he said so and
> what
> > > part did he say that it
> > > is Mandu..What I could recollect is that song
> has
> > > shades of Raaga Bouli
> > > also.
> > > Swapnil and other Classical Gurus can throw
> light
> > > here...I am a classical
> > > illiterate...
> > >
> > > >>>people like Akil and Mr. Ahmed have
> > > > given some thought to it.
> > > They are simply enjoying our heated
> > > conversation...tell me one guy who is
> > > supporting you with the same falsified
> conviction
> > > that you have...I have
> > > received mails personally from many here
> regarding
> > > this issue...
> > >
> > >
> > > >>>Hindolam RAGA (in hindustani it is called
> > > Malkouns)
> > > Correct...Thats great again.
> > >
> > > >>>Why did he need to use that tune when other
> > > music directors have been
> > > using this RAGA in
> > > > different style (i mean in Hindustani and
> > > Carnatic)
> > > > and created beautiful tunes..
> > >
> > > Where did he use the same tune...? the whole
> song is
> > > entirely different from
> > > the suprabhaatham...isn't it?..ARR used that
> > > suprabhatham tune in the
> > > prelude and one part of interlude because the
> whole
> > > situation starts on a
> > > fine morning and the heroine sets out free,
> meaning
>
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