Roshan, that was a neat response. I was really surprised to see someone trying to pollute this forum by injecting jealous feel around. It is hard to digest such polluted / jealous remarks about a true genious.
There are 3 broad categories of people; (1) those who truly and openly admire good things and provide constructive criticism (2) those who neither admires nor criticizes, typically who cares attitude personalities (3) those who always try hard to find reasons to criticize others� While appreciating at all the positive developments happening around us, it is unfortunate that we still have the 3rd category people in existence. My sincere recommendation to the moderator of this group is to keep away such 3rd category polluted messages from this forum and keep this form a descent place for the first and second category people� God has created a select few that can spread peace and happiness to the rest. If You are not one of those god's select few, let live those that can spread the message of peace and happiness. =================================================================== --- In [email protected], "Roshan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > BOSE's music the the finest music i have ever heard in some decades. > i mean it. > > accusing someone blindly is not gonna change anything. > > i have had disagreements with some of the members in this group once, > for i wrote that i do not like some of ar rahman's music. and i > still don't like few of his works, especially some music in 90's > after roja and bombay. like "hello doctor.." because i think those > music are not showing any talent of ar rahman as music director. > > BUT THE REST OF HIS TUNES ARE THE MOST FINEST MUSIC ONE WOULD EVER > LISTEN TO, IN A LIFE TIME. > > I have this friend working in a school in brunei darussalam, who > actually is a Negro and a British citizen. I was playing a song from > Between heaven and Earth, called "Call Me when you need a friend" > when he was around, he was so much obsessed to that music that he > took the cd from me and hasn't returned back yet!!! > > I know that ppl used to bitch ARR before saying, he copies a lot of > african music, he copies south american music. i dont think it is to > be called copying. infact, he has the knowledge of these forms of > music and he uses them in his work. there is absolutely nothing > wrong in it. > > Have you ever heard a song called "Saraswati Dance" by kitaro, the > famous musician from japan.. he is considered as one of the finest > musicians in the world. listen to the song and you will understand > it sounds similar to a lot of indian film songs. its "Taal" the > way that it is presented, BUT IT WAS NOT BEEN COPIED FROM ANY INDIAN > SONG the fact is that he took elements from indian music to create > that piece of music, and what a tune.. just perfect. > > Yanni, when came to India to perform in Tajmahal, created music that > sounds similar to indian and chinese melodies. he called it silk > road or something, i dont remember. but in the very beginning of the > dvd, i listen to this music played in a bamboo flute or something, > and catches my ears just because, i have heard that music somewhere.. > and i know it is nowhere else, but in india itself. > > Do you think yanni copied music of one of our so called Musicians and > Music directors ??? I dont think so, > > you may wonder why i compared ARR with Yanni and Kitaro, because, > our man has the genuinity and quality to place them amidst these > great personalities. and he is not afraid of criticism he is not > afraid of failure. > > I read somewhere, that Gulzar and Javed akhtar talking about ar > rahman. gulzar says, he is the only person who single handedly > changed the face of indian music. > > javed akhtar says, he is an alrounder, because he knows all forms of > music. and I am sure these people's words has to be taken in to > account because, they are the most succesful guys in their respective > fields. > > just by accusing ar rahman to be a copy cat is not going to change > the facts. and the person who said so may get some relief by showing > off his jelousy. but somewhere, it hurts when some one unnecesarily > accuse somebody for no reason. even after giving the most beautiful > songs for us to listen, that too without even saying anything.. > > i wonder why it happens in a group like this? > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Sowmy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I guess you guyz are hallucinating... I do wonder many times why > > some ppl. totally lack the aesthetic sense to appreciate good > music... > > > > And abt songs sounding the same way in the same movie, i wud like > > to remind u that the songs are made to match the mood of the > movie... > > In that sense, it might sound similar... Having said that, i have > to > > say that i dont subscribe to all the views you have expressed here > > about the similarities... I still dont see any similarity in the > > songs u have mentioned.. > > > > Also, u have to accept that MDs dont get the chance to exhibit > their > > talent by scoring the entire gamut of music in just one film.... > > Their duty is to deliver the music that the Director of the film > > thinks will suit ... So they are working under constraints... Given > > that, you can imagine how creative ARR is, to give such different > > music every single time... > > > > So guyz, grow up... Dont try to show off here... > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Pavana Kumar CM > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well Joel, I would like to add the following > > > > > > If you see even Bose, many people felt that it has > > > wide variety. But frankly I don't think so. If you > > > see songs Desh Ki Mitti, Ghoomparani, Ekla Chalo and > > > Azaadi all have the same skeleton tune it is just the > > > orchestration and other masala added to it which makes > > > it feel different. In fact if you carefully look at > > > the Chorus of the Azaadi song (also the whole song) it > > > is nothing but our National Anthem (Jana Gana > > > Mana....) repackaged as it is the different tune. > > > > > > Afghanisthan theme in Bose also looks very shabby to > > > me because in those times much better feel was given > > > in tamil movies like Guleba Kavali & Alibaba by MSV & > > > RM. See those movies to experience. In fact I won't > > > be surprised if he has used some of the notes just > > > like that. > > > > > > The Same is the case in other movies also > > > > > > Lagaan - Mitwa, Ore Chori... are both same skeleton > > > tunes > > > Swades - Sawariyan is IR's tune (also used by other > > > copy cat Nadeem Shravan in Raja Hindustani i.e Pardesi > > > Pardesi...) > > > Zubeidaa - Dheere Dheere..., Hain Na..., Door Kahi... > > > all have same skeleton tune > > > > > > I agree that music directors will use their popular > > > tunes in many movies, but I don't see people using > > > that in the same movie. This shows the creativity of > > > that person. > > > > > > As you say his music was once upon a time very > > > refreshing and a welcome change. I think this magic > > > started to weaken after Kandukonden Kandukonden. That > > > is the last album which had masterpieces with each > > > song having different shades and different feel like > > > > > > 1. Enna Solla - Most in raga Bhairavi > > > 2. Kanna Moochi - In Senchurutti > > > 3. Title Song - In Kadana Kutoohalam > > > 4. Enge Enadhu - In Ragamalika (Sindhu Bhairvai in > > > Starting) > > > 5. Konjum Mainakkale - In Madhyamavathi (although not > > > pure). > > > > > > See how wide variety these songs were. Now he is > > > becoming montonous and the variety is dying down. > > > > > > I hope in the future movies atlease he brings back his > > > old variety > > > > > > Rgds, > > > Pavana Kumar C.M > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Joel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Did anybody know that ARR is a copycat tooo....well > > > > ? > > > > But unlike HJ or other MD's he doesn't take them > > > > from the worlds most well known artists like Sting > > > > (from where HJ takes mostly) or any other famous > > > > artists... > > > > Well, does anbody out here listen to rock music..I > > > > am talking abt the 70's and 80's...if yes has > > > > anybody heard Ritchie Blackmore's Deep Purple, > > > > Rainbow n' all that stuff....if yes again have u > > > > hrd the song 'Strange Kind of Woman'-Deep Purple > > > > and dhinthanana song from Rhythm.. > > > > > > > > well this where he has copied from ...listen closely > > > > to the first interlude in that Rhythm song where it > > > > goes like this Siru pookal...... > > > > Now listen to Strange Kind of Woman and note the > > > > tune when Blackmore sings I need You I want > > > > you ..........I once met a Strange Kind of Woman > > > > > > > > The tunes are exactly the same and it is the same > > > > tune he has used in Dilse Re except for the > > > > different scale and extra drag.. > > > > > > > > now there are so many such instances where our > > > > boss.. sorry ur boss has copied especially from > > > > Rolling Stones...I dunno if I shud be his fan after > > > > listening to all those hate comments abt HJ being a > > > > copycat...for that I dont like HJ too but never say > > > > that he is a copycat just bcoz u know he is doing > > > > it when u did'nt know the Master was also doing the > > > > same thing.. > > > > > > > > But I still like Arr for the class he owns and his > > > > ability to compose different types of music...but > > > > these days only a very few of his songs sound tooo > > > > good from the same album..take Swades for that ,only > > > > 3 songs were good...They were too good actually and > > > > I accept that,..but what abt Saanwariya or Aahista > > > > or even Dekho Na which is actually the Baba song..He > > > > is not he same person we saw in Roja or Taal or > > > > Minsara Kanavu or his old ones > > > > do you ever feel rahmans class in songs like Sarkara > > > > Inikura - New or such songs ? He is out of tunes > > > > these days..He is the only person whose music is > > > > worth listening to in the Indian cine industry but > > > > now that is shattered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/rKxVKC/SOnJAA/n1hLAA/iyUplB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. 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