you guessed it..... I BEG TO DIFFER > opinions are respectable, but are more of a summary > judgment.
I appreciate your interest to analyze the facts rather than just hear opinions but I would like to point out that Sunil's message is nothing more than a "detailed summary judgement" too ..... and he aptly does his confession (rather acknowledgement) by saying... > > whole thing. I don't know whether I am fitting > > observation to theories or theories to observation. and coming to the topic, every song has few lines which just goes on and on and on in a brain. I said "A brain" to stress the fact that all the brains are different and unique. So, converting 'an' observation to theory is not logical. I would just give couple of examples and leave it at that... 1. Do patthae... pathjhad ke.... paedon se.... uthre thhey... paedon kiii shaaakhon se.. uthre thheyyy........ now tell to yourself if the right song strikes in your mind??( i am asking this because it is ones own opinion/observation/perception that matters in understanding ) if you are able to identify the song, it means you have a strong neuro links which associate these lines to that song. now, try this..... 2. laanat hai jii us par duniya me.n hii rahkar duniya me.n jo jiine ke a.ndaaz ko na jaane maathe ya haatho.n pe chaa.nd ya taaro.n me.n kismat ko DHuu.nDHe par khud me.n kya hai yeh na jaane can you identify this one? Well, these conclusions cannot be arrived at with mathematical formulations(as yet)... so its all about surveying unbiased opinions. and I think this kind of a survey would be more effective with small clips of audio rather than the lyrics as I gave above. thats all I got for now and please do not take it otherwise if i do not follow up on this discussion... Subbu. --- In [email protected], V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In another newsgroup, one member shared the following of his > views about ARR's music. It is an interesting thought and > was not discussed on this ml, hence posting it here hoping > that it will raise a discussion on these parameters. > > Now, I am sure that some members will be quick to respond > that "arr's all songs and entire songs are good." Well, Such > opinions are respectable, but are more of a summary > judgment. I hope to get some analysis of ARR's song > in which these observations are found present and absent. > > He is not a member of this list. His email-id is mentioned > and anyone can cc the mails to him so that he gets the > feedback and more info. > > some part of the mail is snipped. > > -- > Rawat > > On 8/22/05 1:34 PM India Time, _Sunil Dandekar_ > <sunnydandekar at yahoo dot com> wrote: > > > ARR in my most humblest opinionest is an occasionally > > gifted composer, who raises himself above his > > contemporaries by virtue of occasional beauties. Since I > > do not listen to Tamil or Telugu songs my opinions are > > formed based on his Hindi output alone. His work suffers > > from his earlier occupation as a jingle maker. More often > > than not he composes riveting mukhdas and then the song > > freewheels into nothing. > > > > I became aware of this when I realized that for majority > > of ARR's songs, I can remember the mukhdas very well, but > > not the stanzas. For instance I remember "Rang de ha rang > > de mujhe apane preet wich rang de" as a very catchy > > beginning but do not remember how rest of the song goes. > > I have the same difficulty with many others, even with > > one as recent as "Mitwa sun mitwa". It is as if he is at > > loss after a promising start(in songs and his career). > > This selective memory can not be attributed to possible > > lack of interest in a particular song. If one were not > > interested in the song, one would tend to forget the > > whole thing. I don't know whether I am fitting > > observation to theories or theories to observation. > > > > AR Rahman is awe-inspiring when he sticks to tunes of > > Indian origins. (I can not define Indian Origin.). Tu hi > > re, Ghanan Ghanan, Pal pal hai bhaari, Chhalka chhalka > > re, chupke se are some songs that I remember and like > > effortlessly. Indian classical music conventions might be > > helping him to structure and organize his creativity, as > > they have for countless composers. Lately he seems to > > have realized it himself. His songs in Lagaan, Saathiya > > and Swades are more likely to be remembered in the next > > decade as compared to his earlier output. > > > > regards, > > > > Sunil ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hbthcnu/M=362335.6886442.7839733.3022183/D=grplch/S=1705331874:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1124852620/A=2894366/R=0/SIG=138c78jl6/*http://www.networkforgood.org/topics/arts_culture/?source=YAHOO&cmpgn=GRP&RTP=http://groups.yahoo.com/";>What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? 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