hi all,
As we believe that music has no language barrier, you have to listen to Bengali songs composed by the legend Salil da.
There is a compiltaion from Saregama-HMV called "Legends-Salil Chowdhury"----it's a must listen to know Salil da better.
Arijit
On 22/11/05, anuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
well, its rather uncanny to follow this conversation about salil
chaudhary and his influence on rahman's musical style. back in 94,
with the release of bombay, my dad, who happens to be a big fan of
salil chaudhary, likened rahman's 'kuchi kucchi rakamma'
with 'mausam beeta jaaye' of 'do bigha zamin' by salil c. that song
is sung by farmers, that too of the 1950s, and has a pure folk feel..
we didnt take him too seriously then.. time to rethink!:)
--- In [email protected] , Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> to moderator and other members--> excuse me for digressing...and
discussing other composer...i am doing so..because it will give a
little understanding to others also..abt yesteryear composers who
have, in some way or the other, influenced Rahman..
>
>
> Hi! Dasun,
>
> I am glad that you appreciate the music given by the legends of
yester-years...looks like you are complete novice when it comes to
Salil Chaudhary's music...i hope the link i gave came to some use
atleast.
> Anand is not just abt Maine Tere liye...try listening to "kahi
door jab din"...what a fantastic melody it is..the mukhuda itself is
enough to captivate the listener...
> or try "na jiya lage na " from same film..which is tuned in raag
Bhageeswari.
> there are plenty of films of Salilda, in which he has displayed
his mastery..like the prelude music for the song "aaha rim jhim ke
yeh" from film "usne kaha tha"..it is not a normal brain which can
conceive such wonderful stuff..
>
> and regarding your query:
>
> The song from movie Rhythm is a complex composition...it also
has many uthar-chadaos...i mean...u cannot sing that song
casually..no straight lines..lot of ups and downs..and influence of
western classical is evident..thats why i feel its like tribute to
salilda...see the aalaaps in that song...its unusual...
> by uthar-chadaos..i mean ups-downs of notes..which strains
singer/instrumentalist a lot..for eg: take the film choti si
baat....u have a song by mukesh "yeh din kya aaye"...listen
carefully.."yeh din" is on higher notes while "kya aaye" is on lower
notes...even when he finishes antharas..the ending is low-scale..and
immediately connecting it to lines of mukhuda as "yeh din"..strains
composers a lot..
> example 2: film "parakh"..song"oh sajna"...follow the sitar
notes...they are very tricky..with high scale immediately followed
by low scale notes...if a instrumentalist himself finds it so
complex..imagine the brain which composed such pieces..thats what
Salilda was famous for.
>
> Aakarsh.
>
> my blog : www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com
>
> Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Aakarsh!
>
> Thanks a lot man, that blog spot is awesome! At a personal level,
Naushad
> probably had the biggest influence on ARR as both are deeply
spiritual men,
> thus their emphasis on strong melodies. Yesterday, I was listening
to 'Hai
> Na' and felt certain similarities with the lovely 'Teri Husn ki'
from Leader
> although I can't still pinpoint them at a detailed level. The more
obvious
> ones are the introductions on the santoor (correct me if I'm wrong
on the
> instrument).
>
> Coming to Chowdhury's music, I did see Anand once and liked 'Meine
Tere
> Liye,' but did not know it was by him! Although Anand may not be
in the same
> league as Madhumati, after buying the album just now (it's amazing
what you
> can find on the iTunes Music Store!) and listening to the four
songs, I can
> see they are definitely above par in melodic content. I will
definitely
> check out the other movies you had noted as well.
>
> Couple of questions for you.
>
> 1. What made you attribute 'Anbe' from Rythm to Salilda's style?
> 2. Can you briefly describe the meaning of 'Uthar-Chadaos?
>
> Gopal,
>
> I tried to make this as 'ARRelevant' as possible since I think
these
> discussions are very educational for us all, but feel free to give
the 'take
> it outside!' command as necessary. :)
>
> Regards,
> Dasun
>
>
> >From: Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: RE: [arr] to Dasun Abeysekara (regarding Salil
Chaudhary)
> >Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 07:49:36 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> > read your mail...the biggest surprise came to me when i read
that
> >Madhumati is the only album of Salil Chaudhary which you've
heard. He was a
> >super-genius who was ranked along the likes of S.D.Burman,
Naushad , Madan
> >Mohan and all..
> >
> > His area of expertise was Western Classical plus Folk.Infact ,
> >Ilaiyaraaja worked with Salilda as a guitarist,which is why he
too emulated
> >similar ingredients. Salilda was the first composer,in india, who
looked at
> >Symphonies of the west..and understood the nuances which he
adapted very
> >well..by fusing indian folk into it.We can say that his music was
also a
> >kind of Fusion. he was a genius...his compositions were kinda
complex..with
> >lot of Uthar-Chadaos..infact...the number of simple compositions
is very
> >less...because most of his compositions used to baffle the
> >instrumentalists...people in those times used to feel that he is
a cut
> >different from the rest because of his unique formula of
> >symphony+folk+classical.
> >
> > Some fantastic albums of Salilda are here :
> > http://www.musicindiaonline.com/l/17/m/music_director.494/ try
them...my
> >picks would be Anand, Maya, Parakh, Rajnigandha, Choti Si baat,
Chaya,
> >etc.,.
> >
> > i know Rahman admires Salilda a lot...however, having heard
many
> >Salil-da songs, i can say that Rahman doesnt imbibe much of
Salilda's
> >style...he does..but not much..According to me Rahman is (more)
heavily
> >inspired by Naushad...and sometimes, both the Burmans..and at
times even
> >Ilaiyaraaja...he himself admits it..The Salil-da ingredient is
very
> >less..but yet, if you take a song like "Sky"song
from "Rhythm"..it is his
> >tribute to Salil-da.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Aakarsh.
> > ( www.musicmavericks.blogspot.com )
> >
> >Dasun Abeysekera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thank you so much for this link! I have always been blown over
by the
> >Music
> >of Madhumati, eversince I saw the movie (one of my first in Hindi
along
> >with
> >Abhimaan) as a 9 or 10 year old. I still remember falling in love
with the
> >beauty of Vaijyanthimala, so this movie has a special meaning for
me too!
> >Coming back to the music of Salil Chouwdhury, it is a class apart
in this
> >movie, his versatality shows through the incredible variety of
styles he
> >composes in this album. From the lyrical ballad Dil Tadap, to the
lovely
> >Zulmi Sanga Aankh Ladi, to the heartwrenching Toote Hue Khwabon,
to the
> >comical Jungle Mein, and the opening Aja Re Paradesi, which
always gave me
> >the impression that both Mani Ratnam and ARR had this song in
mind for
> >Roja's opening chinna chinna Asai, just a hunch. Anyway, truly a
> >masterpiece
> >by all means. Unfortunately, that is the only Salil Chouwdhury
album I
> >currently have or heard, well I have the old Devdas DVD, but that
does not
> >have many songs.
> >
> >Looks like he was Bimal Roy's favorite, that should speak enough
of his
> >genius! I like these topics...we should branch out once in a
while and
> >discuss the old greats of Indian music, who undoubtedly have
influenced ARR
> >in many ways.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Manoj Mohan C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > >To: "ARR Fans" <[email protected] >
> > >Subject: [arr] [semi-ARR] ARR mentioned in tribute to Salil Da
> > >Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 15:37:27 +0530
> > >
> > >...........Music directors from Shankar-Jaikishen to A.R.
Rahman have
> >been
> > >struck by Salil da's felicity in matching orchestration with
> > >emotions..........The skilful use of obligato, the counter
melody flowing
> > >around the main melody, is an unfailing attraction of his
> > >music.........Both Ilayaraja and A.R. Rahman followed the path
charted by
> > >him. Ilayaraja was introduced to the film industry as guitarist
and combo
> > >organ player in Salil da's recordings and his influence on
Ilayaraja is
> > >evident. R.K. Sekhar, Rahman's father, worked with Salil da as
an
> > >assistant. Rahman himself testifies that attending Salil da's
recording
> > >sessions at a young age left an indelible impression on him.
> > >
> > >http://www.hindu.com/mag/2005/11/20/stories/2005112000340500.htm
> > >
> > >Manoj
> >
> >
> >
> >
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